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> pot makes you feel fine with being bored The problem with that is that it's also super not backed up by data.

tonyarkles 11y ago
Anecdote, data, yadda yadda. This is precisely why pot has a very infrequent place in my life. In my misspent youth, I came to the same realization: when I was smoking weed frequently, I had no problem just doing nothing with my life. Edit: on the flip side, I have come up with some really cool solutions to problems after having a bit. But it'll never be a frequent thing for me again, precisely because of the probability of just getting back to the "OK with not doing anything" state.
- static_noise 11y ago
  > it'll never be a frequent thing for me again This is how drugs are taken best: Not frequent.
  - mistercow 11y ago
    Sorry, that's just still a huge overgeneralization. If you are deriving significant therapeutic benefit from a drug, this statement is completely false.
- mistercow 11y ago
  >Anecdote, data, yadda yadda. Sorry, are you waving away the comparative value of hard data and personal experience? > when I was smoking weed frequently, I had no problem just doing nothing with my life Sounds like pot isn't for really you then. I'd even be OK with a statement like "A danger of pot is that some people find it makes them OK with being bored". But making sweeping generalizations that don't apply to everybody (and haven't even been shown to apply to most or many people) is exactly what is wrong with anti-drug propaganda. First off it's bad because, you know, lying is wrong. Secondly, it destroys your credibility with anyone who decides to see for themselves, and doesn't have anything close to the experience you described. And with drugs like cocaine, meth and heroin out there, it's probably a good idea for kids to have someone with a little credibility to turn to when they want to know what's up.
  - tonyarkles 11y ago
    >> Anecdote, data, yadda yadda. > Sorry, are you waving away the comparative value of hard data and personal experience? Absolutely! Not because I don't see value in data, but because my personal experience is all I have to go from. A cursory lit review didn't come up with any hard data for or against that specific proposition (that marijuana makes you ok with being bored). The closest I found was: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2723942/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2723942/ Which suggests that among their N=634 marijuana users, ~25% reported boredom as a motivation for smoking. I absolutely agree that we should have credible data to use both for education and policy making! The unfortunate part of our current legal situation is that it's incredibly difficult to study those things directly.

Anecdote, data, yadda yadda. This is precisely why pot has a very infrequent place in my life. In my misspent youth, I came to the same realization: when I was smoking weed frequently, I had no problem just doing nothing with my life. Edit: on the flip side, I have come up with some really cool solutions to problems after having a bit. But it'll never be a frequent thing for me again, precisely because of the probability of just getting back to the "OK with not doing anything" state.

static_noise 11y ago
> it'll never be a frequent thing for me again This is how drugs are taken best: Not frequent.
- mistercow 11y ago
  Sorry, that's just still a huge overgeneralization. If you are deriving significant therapeutic benefit from a drug, this statement is completely false.
mistercow 11y ago
>Anecdote, data, yadda yadda. Sorry, are you waving away the comparative value of hard data and personal experience? > when I was smoking weed frequently, I had no problem just doing nothing with my life Sounds like pot isn't for really you then. I'd even be OK with a statement like "A danger of pot is that some people find it makes them OK with being bored". But making sweeping generalizations that don't apply to everybody (and haven't even been shown to apply to most or many people) is exactly what is wrong with anti-drug propaganda. First off it's bad because, you know, lying is wrong. Secondly, it destroys your credibility with anyone who decides to see for themselves, and doesn't have anything close to the experience you described. And with drugs like cocaine, meth and heroin out there, it's probably a good idea for kids to have someone with a little credibility to turn to when they want to know what's up.
- tonyarkles 11y ago
  >> Anecdote, data, yadda yadda. > Sorry, are you waving away the comparative value of hard data and personal experience? Absolutely! Not because I don't see value in data, but because my personal experience is all I have to go from. A cursory lit review didn't come up with any hard data for or against that specific proposition (that marijuana makes you ok with being bored). The closest I found was: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2723942/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2723942/ Which suggests that among their N=634 marijuana users, ~25% reported boredom as a motivation for smoking. I absolutely agree that we should have credible data to use both for education and policy making! The unfortunate part of our current legal situation is that it's incredibly difficult to study those things directly.