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What I wonder is how many people were originally detained/investigated because of the WoD, but arrested/prosecuted for the non-drug offenses. (i.e. resisting,
by roc 11y ago
What I wonder is how many people were originally detained/investigated because of the WoD, but arrested/prosecuted for the non-drug offenses.
(i.e. resisting, gambling, tax evasion, etc.)
Unless you know why these people were in front of the cops to begin with, you can't speak to whether any given policy change will or won't affect arrest or imprisonment rates.
e.g. Stop-and-Frisk is a War on Terror policy, but regularly results in weapons and drug charges. Are the people ultimately sentenced for those offenses in prison because of weapon or drug laws, or anti-terror laws?
- rayiner 11y agoStop and Frisk is not a war on terror policy. It's a "New York used to be Gotham City in the 1990's"-era policy.
- happyscrappy 11y agoNY was Gotham City. Why is there so much animosity for the 'Broken Windows' policy when it clearly worked?
- roc 11y agoBecause cities without New York's policies saw the same drop in crime?
- happyscrappy 11y agoChicago?
- PhantomGremlin 11y agoHow about quality of life??? Rudy Giuliani got rid of all the annoying squeegee men that loved to shake down vehicular traffic. But now ... they're baaackkk "terrorizing city streets"! http://nypost.com/2014/08/07/squeegee-men-are-back-and-terrorizing-city-streets/ http://nypost.com/2014/08/07/squeegee-men-are-back-and-terro... http://nypost.com/2015/07/19/squeegee-man-is-citys-latest-blast-from-the-past/ http://nypost.com/2015/07/19/squeegee-man-is-citys-latest-bl... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeegee_man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeegee_man
- ecopoesis 11y agoBecause there is no proof that 'Broken Windows' worked. Crime has declined since the 90s in all major American cities: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-imprisoners-dilemma/ http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-imprisoners-dilemma/
- roc 11y agoFair enough. Yet the question remains: can you meaningfully lower arrests/convictions that resulted from stop-and-frisk, by changing the laws regarding the particular charges that are brought? If it's about a 'fishing expedition', then decriminalizing marijuana might dramatically drop drug charges, but not move net arrests much, as officers simply find something else.