> Out of the box, it's ugly, but -frankly- who cares? We're all programmers here Uhh, humans? ;) I find a better-looking tool to be more pleasant to work with

> Out of the box, it's ugly, but -frankly- who cares? We're all programmers here Uhh, humans? ;) I find a better-looking tool to be more pleasant to work with, and Redmine was not-as-painful-but-almost as JIRA for me, for the experience being so poor.