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exactly. Those are the scenarios where I always end up needing more battery life. Even a slightly busy day where I don't have a chance to charge after leaving

exactly. Those are the scenarios where I always end up needing more battery life. Even a slightly busy day where I don't have a chance to charge after leaving home in the morning can sometimes result in a pretty low battery by the end of the day. I got an Android phone at Google IO one year that was the latest and greatest. It lasted between 1-2 hours on a full charge. A friend of mine bought the same model and had to carry around two spare battery packs. Clearly nobody tests phones for normal usage patterns before deciding how much battery is enough. To make matters worse, once the phone is over a year old, battery life is typically about 80% of what it was when new.

kuschku 11y ago
I need 3 days battery on low usage (offline maps and IRC, plus checking calendar every so and so often, etc), and one whole day (24 hours) with full usage. The only way I could get it was by throwing every single Google service out, disabling most location services [1], reducing screen brightness (seriously, fuck Lollipop for the new slider), and so on. And it was also only possible with the Moto G. –— [1] if I turn on Google WiFi location, it just ends up constantly enabling GPS, then connecting to the internet, then waiting 2 minutes, then again, I suspect it’s trying to map out WiFi network strength, because no one in my city actually ever ran around with an Android phone with WiFi and location enabled at the same time, and Google never bothered to send their StreetView cars here
- listic 11y ago
  My go-to resource for comparison of phones' battery life is GSMArena's Battery life test results. [1] I customize usage pattern to 1h calls, 3h web browsing and 3h video playback (I don't watch much video on the phone, but I believe that power consumption of Skype, GPS navigation, etc. should be somewhat similar) I feel that today's phones are way too large, so I limit my choice to non-huge ones. So far, last year's Sony Z3 Compact tops the chart: 44% better battery life than iPhone6s in my 'heavy usage' scenario, 63% better in the default scenario. I'm eagerly awaiting the results for the recent Z5 Compact: it might provide even better battery life (72.5 hours compared to 'two and a half days', as tested by The Guardian [2] [3]). [1] GSMArena: Battery life test results http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3 http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3 [2] The Guardian: Sony Xperia Z3 compact review http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/03/sony-xperia-z3-compact-review-best-small-android-phone-and-iphone-6-competitor http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/03/sony-xperi... [3] The Guardian: Sony Xperia Z5 Compact review http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/23/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review-best-smaller-smartphone http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/23/sony-xperi...
wingerlang 11y ago
> It lasted between 1-2 hours on a full charge That sounds like a huge exaggeration or a broken phone. What model was it? There is no way a phone like this would be sold.
- grandalf 11y ago
  > That sounds like a huge exaggeration or a broken phone. Neither. The phone was an HTC Evo 4G: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Evo_4G https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Evo_4G Link describing the horrible battery life: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/technology/personaltech/17pogue.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/technology/personaltech/17... I had the phone fully charged, used it to navigate by car from SF to a place in Mountain View, checked email a few times from Mountain View, and the phone was completely dead for the ride back. If a single person at HTC or Google had tried to use this phone for any kind of normal utilization, I think it's quite likely it would not have been launched. If I'd purchased the phone instead of getting it as a giveaway, I would surely have been irate. As it was, I sold it to someone via CraigsList for a few hundred bucks. This is why I predict Apple will continue to dominate. Android and the Android ecosystem still have many of these same kind of lapses and warts. My Nexus 7 is very greedy on battery and does not go into any kind of hibernation, which means that if I forget to charge it, it's dead after two days with no use at all.
  - wingerlang 11y ago
    I see, still seems like something was way off with the specific mode. It also mentions that an update increased the battery life - although not by how much.
    - grandalf 11y ago
      > something was way off with the specific model It seems odd that nobody would have done real world testing of the device. > an update increased the battery life Perhaps, though since it was not a google phone, it was likely at least a year until any software updates were available.

kuschku 11y ago

I need 3 days battery on low usage (offline maps and IRC, plus checking calendar every so and so often, etc), and one whole day (24 hours) with full usage. The only way I could get it was by throwing every single Google service out, disabling most location services [1], reducing screen brightness (seriously, fuck Lollipop for the new slider), and so on. And it was also only possible with the Moto G. –— [1] if I turn on Google WiFi location, it just ends up constantly enabling GPS, then connecting to the internet, then waiting 2 minutes, then again, I suspect it’s trying to map out WiFi network strength, because no one in my city actually ever ran around with an Android phone with WiFi and location enabled at the same time, and Google never bothered to send their StreetView cars here

listic 11y ago
My go-to resource for comparison of phones' battery life is GSMArena's Battery life test results. [1] I customize usage pattern to 1h calls, 3h web browsing and 3h video playback (I don't watch much video on the phone, but I believe that power consumption of Skype, GPS navigation, etc. should be somewhat similar) I feel that today's phones are way too large, so I limit my choice to non-huge ones. So far, last year's Sony Z3 Compact tops the chart: 44% better battery life than iPhone6s in my 'heavy usage' scenario, 63% better in the default scenario. I'm eagerly awaiting the results for the recent Z5 Compact: it might provide even better battery life (72.5 hours compared to 'two and a half days', as tested by The Guardian [2] [3]). [1] GSMArena: Battery life test results http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3 http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3 [2] The Guardian: Sony Xperia Z3 compact review http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/03/sony-xperia-z3-compact-review-best-small-android-phone-and-iphone-6-competitor http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/03/sony-xperi... [3] The Guardian: Sony Xperia Z5 Compact review http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/23/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review-best-smaller-smartphone http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/23/sony-xperi...

wingerlang 11y ago

> It lasted between 1-2 hours on a full charge That sounds like a huge exaggeration or a broken phone. What model was it? There is no way a phone like this would be sold.

grandalf 11y ago
> That sounds like a huge exaggeration or a broken phone. Neither. The phone was an HTC Evo 4G: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Evo_4G https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Evo_4G Link describing the horrible battery life: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/technology/personaltech/17pogue.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/17/technology/personaltech/17... I had the phone fully charged, used it to navigate by car from SF to a place in Mountain View, checked email a few times from Mountain View, and the phone was completely dead for the ride back. If a single person at HTC or Google had tried to use this phone for any kind of normal utilization, I think it's quite likely it would not have been launched. If I'd purchased the phone instead of getting it as a giveaway, I would surely have been irate. As it was, I sold it to someone via CraigsList for a few hundred bucks. This is why I predict Apple will continue to dominate. Android and the Android ecosystem still have many of these same kind of lapses and warts. My Nexus 7 is very greedy on battery and does not go into any kind of hibernation, which means that if I forget to charge it, it's dead after two days with no use at all.
- wingerlang 11y ago
  I see, still seems like something was way off with the specific mode. It also mentions that an update increased the battery life - although not by how much.
  - grandalf 11y ago
    > something was way off with the specific model It seems odd that nobody would have done real world testing of the device. > an update increased the battery life Perhaps, though since it was not a google phone, it was likely at least a year until any software updates were available.