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- dikaiosune 11y agoI pulled this up first in a mobile app that strips out CSS and JS. I started reading the copy and thought that someone had a grandiose satire page trying to sell a pad of paper as a device. I kept waiting for them to talk about a real time communication network involving stamps and grandparents. EDIT: I know that complaining about downvotes is stupid, but I'm curious what might have invited them in this comment? A bit cavalier perhaps, but they had me genuinely fooled without the javascript to load the images. Any insight?
- trishume 11y agoSeems like a neat product, a mashup of an ereader and a http://www.myboogieboard.com/ http://www.myboogieboard.com/ with some added web. The initial hero image has terrible contrast and readability though, and the site does too much unnecessary fanciness with scroll-ability.
- Vendan 11y agoSo so agree. Did the designers not look at the page after they put it up? The white text on red and white plaid tablecloth one was even worse!
- zyxley 11y agoYeah, the first screen is basically unreadable, and the carousel keeps going automatically even if you manually click one of the items! Also, the weird progress thing took long enough (not that I understand why it's even needed) that at first I thought the page was using some Javascript thing that was broken with adblocking on.
- rtpg 11y agoAh, thanks, I was looking exactly for what those boards are called. See them used so much by store staff for explaining things
- batbomb 11y agoSee previous discussion (1700 days ago!): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2180623 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2180623
- melling 11y agoIn that case, it's probably gonna be the iPad Pro with the Pencil. I really like pen and paper. It looks like Apple got it right: http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/29/pixar-ipad-pro-pencil/ http://9to5mac.com/2015/09/29/pixar-ipad-pro-pencil/ Apple tricked everyone into thinking a stylus was dumb, right up until they shipped a great one.
- officemonkey 11y agoRemember when Apple tricked everyone into thinking Netbooks were underpowered and lame, right up until they shipped the iPad? When Apple does the "I'm sure those grapes are sour" routine, you can bet they've got the fix in their pipeline.
- MichaelGG 11y agoThey didn't trick anyone. If you've used a Wacom or a tablet PC in the last decade along with software like OneNote, you'll know how great it is. Plus every positive review of the Surface mentions it's fantastic if you need the stylus.
- azinman2 11y agoThey said it was dumb as your primary input device instead of your finger, and they were right. Apple never shipped any software for drawing/handwriting, however, until they had a stylus that was low-latency and the mainstream usage was solidified.
- aakilfernandes 11y agoBefore you break out your calculators, thats 4.6 years
- fiatjaf 11y agoI wish I could get one of these in Brazil without having to sell my entire blood.
- chasing 11y agoI love the idea, and the device looks neat. But, man: Lag. With the half- or full-second lag between a drawing action and seeing the line on the screen, this feels like it'd be maddening to use.
- zyxley 11y agoYeah, if they didn't have awful lag even in their own marketing video I might have been interested.
- tomashertus 11y agoI think that these products are like 5 years behind the market. There will be need for pencils only in niche markets and definitely not for writing. It looks beautiful, but I don't see go this mainstream....
- sealthedeal 11y agodumb
- sealthedeal 11y agopersonally... Its useless
- scrumper 11y agoThingy itself is interesting but that website! It goes on, and on, and on, and on, in an almost endless stream of pseudo-intellectual, grandiose gibberish. Needs a brutal edit, and then what's left needs rewriting by an English-speaking copywriter.
- wishinghand 11y agoI'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was crazy how long that site was. It just needs a video, how long the battery lasts, and how much it costs. That's all anyone needs.
- webjprgm 11y agoYes, but the video is just as horrible. You sit there slowly watching someone write the narration, which you can't really read anyway so you read the subtitles. There is nothing that shows how the UI works to do anything other than write a single page of text (or doodles).
- donatj 11y agoIt would have been better if you could scroll without waiting for every chunk to fade in. I found that particularly irritating.
- mangeletti 11y agoSrsly; I almost ran out of memory before I got to the bottom. I felt very strongly like they were trying to imitate the way Apple aggrandizes their products, but they took it 300% too far. Another thing; the writing in the demo video appeared to be Katakana, but to most Americans, from 3 feet away (as the video was), it looked like the lady was writing English and it was being converted into gobbly goop.
- steckerbrett 11y agoI was quite stunned by how long it was, I don't think I've ever seen a longer product page before. Once you get down to it though the resolution of that thing is quite impressive, I didn't know that you could get 1080x1440 px 6.8” e-ink panels. That's impressive. Not sure you could ever use it like they are picturing though, some of the examples have lines close to the edge where it is surely impossible to actually get the stylus.
- te_platt 11y agoI know this is kind of weak but I have a hard time reading it other than "No To Slate".
- steele 11y agohmm bic camera has all sorts of similar devices available today in various sizes, but white on black via LCD
- DaveSapien 11y agoYeah, I've seen them too. But they don't save (maybe the do) the images. And most importantly for me, no undo button. I'll keep with my note pro 12.2 for now.
- DaveSapien 11y agoreplying to my own comment...ok. I found the american site for them, There is a saving version: http://www.myboogieboard.com/ http://www.myboogieboard.com/
- MichaelGG 11y agoWhy do they keep saying 1-bit but then 16-level grayscale? That's 4 bits. Looks neat but a bit small at 6.8". I'm nervous that the stylus might be small and cramping for my hand. I'm not big, just that a lot of stuff is small for design purposes first, usability second. (See: every MS mouse after the Intellimouse Explorer.)
- mangeletti 11y agoIf you search Google for "noteslate wiki"[1], the first result is the Wikipedia entry for Vaporware[2]. 1. http://google.com/search?q=noteslate+wiki http://google.com/search?q=noteslate+wiki 2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
- steckerbrett 11y agoThat's because the product was first announced half a decade ago.
- flycaliguy 11y agoIf you are interested in spending some cash on a writing experience, you may be much better off just buying some high quality pencils and paper. Get some Palomino Blackwing pencils and the branded sharpener. (This is not an ad, but) Just go to jetpens.com and spend the price of this device on some nice stuff. You'll love it. They have mechanical pencils that automatically rotate the lead as you write!
- kevindeasis 11y agoCool product. I always wanted something like this when I was more interested in architecture than coding. I opened this in another tab and went back to coding. I was wondering why everything started to slow down. Then I looked at how much memory chrome was easting again. Anyways, site looks nice, but the UX is another story. You might want a copywriter, and speed up your site by alot. Also, might want to change the header fonts and color. I find some stuff hard to read.
- 0x0 11y agoThat lazy-loading isn't really working well, scrolling down through the page quickly leaves me with a white webpage all the way down...
- azinman2 11y agoWorked for me. Too bad they kept repeating themselves to the point where I wondered if the page was just infinite loop.
- latenightcoding 11y agoThe website will be the doom of that product
- evolve2k 11y agoQuick heads up, you've got a syntax error in your landing page copy. "Discover the potential and simplicity of a monocrhome handwriting interface." Moncrhome should read Monochrome :)
- TeMPOraL 11y agoUnfortunately, this device doesn't solve a thing, and it's good that they're at least honest and didn't edit it out of the video. The deal-breaker here? Lag. There's a reason people don't use tablets as paper even though they're almost ubiquitous, and perfectly able to act like it. It's because the few hundreds milliseconds it takes to react to user input is enough to make handwriting insanely irritating. Interestingly, one of the recent Windows tablets (I don't remember the model; I had the opportunity to play with it few months ago) seem to have input lag so low, that you can actually write comfortably on it. So it's most definitely possible.
- mizzao 11y agoI think the Surface Pro line has great input lag. I write on it all the time. In fact the irritating things are the fact that it's a screen, not paper, and the plastic-on-glass feeling is slippery, and it occasionally runs out of battery. The upside is my notes all get indexed and are stored in the cloud (via OneNote, which has great pen integration) and the slightly worse writing experience is a small price to pay.
- TeMPOraL 11y ago> I think the Surface Pro line has great input lag. By "great" I assume you mean "low"?
- notgood 11y agoIt doesn't even need to have 0 lag, just the _illusion_ of having 0 lag would be enough, like faking the stroke until the actual stroke is digitally rendered/saved, maybe with the help of a film that responds to pressure such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oikY3mKkAs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oikY3mKkAs
- TeMPOraL 11y agoIndeed. The point is, you need instant feedback. Very interesting video, I've never seen such sorcery before. Thanks!
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- smoreilly 11y agoI'm confused how this is so high right now. This really is not that innovative or interesting.
- aaron695 11y agoThe old classic, now we have invented noun X, somehow the real problems of verbs Y will also be solved. The old Minority Report gesturing fallacy.
- an4rchy 11y agoSuch a confusing website, I had no idea what this thing does even after watching the video, it looks like an etch a sketch or a boogie board. I'm sure those buttons do something.
- ljsocal 11y agothe form factor looks terrible...imagine writing/drawing for any length of time with your wrist sitting on the corner of the device...can you say carpal tunnel?
- AsakiIssa 11y agoIt's a damn shame that they was unable to keep to their original A4 / Thin concepts. Looks as chunky as my current Toshiba M700 convertible laptop. Still looking for a tablet like device with Wacom Digitizer and very high PPI. Hopefully the upcoming SP4 and Dell XPS 12 will tick all the boxes!
- cardamomo 11y agoCriticisms aside, I really appreciate how the non-anti-aliased and pixelated quality of the display is incorporated into the product's overall visual language.
- Chipchipperson 11y agoMuch better versions of this already exist, e.g. The Sharp WG-S20 (http://www.amazon.com/SHARP-Electronic-Memo-WG-S20-White/dp/B00GGCB3AC http://www.amazon.com/SHARP-Electronic-Memo-WG-S20-White/dp/...) I believe Sony makes one as well nut significantly more expensive.
- personjerry 11y agoFor a product seemingly targetted at designers, the site design is pretty awful. Too much text, a billion fonts, hard-to-read text+background combination (the "picnic cloth" is nigh unreadable). And why does it claim to be "sustainable"? I'd say the execution/presentation needs serious work.
- d--b 11y agoI would totally buy this if it came with a magnet on the back so that it can stick to my fridge door, and if I could nicely plug it so as to not have to reload the battery... Think about it, the fridge door is the only place where you're going to remember to use this thing: Open the door, no more figs, write a reminder on your slate, and later when grocery shopping, access the slate from your device. Any other use case is gadgety and you're going to use it 5 minutes and give it up. That said, it's quite expensive for a fridge door post it replacement. In fact, I think the guys who created this should partner with fridge companies to embed their product in fridge doors. That would be freaking awesome. Just saying...
- volaski 11y agoWas watching the video, and near the end it said "Buy now at noteslate.com", and I was like "wow I give these guys 1000 points for actually SHIPPING IT instead of being just another lame kickstarter scam". And then I read some more, and it says "Pre-order" at the bottom of the page. Why of course, just another vaporware :(
- volaski 11y agoReading another thread for the same website from a half decade ago, I can't help but doubt that they will actually ship https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2180623 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2180623
- hlfcoding 11y agoI'm glad I stopped loading the page.
- ryaneager 11y agoI remember hearing about this 5 years ago when it was first announced, with the $99 price point. I thought it was the perfect device for me as I was starting college and would work well for taking CS and math notes. Glad it finally shipped but boy does it feel like a dated.
- joshguthrie 11y agoHow exactly is this better than http://www.amazon.com/Tomy-Megasketcher-Magnetic-Drawing-Board/dp/B00005LWJ6 http://www.amazon.com/Tomy-Megasketcher-Magnetic-Drawing-Boa... ?
- MrBra 11y agoAmazing product, amazing presentation music, amazing pictures.
- kactus 11y agoWould like to see this with Evernote integration. Also that website is a good example of bad transitions. I shouldn't have to wait so long for the text to appear when I scroll.
- adevine 11y agoHave you used scannable? Works great, and you still can use plain old pencil and paper.