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I have a gripe with all these online courses. They only target beginners or they target advanced users. I have done hours of googling to find a stuctured course

by rgovind 11y ago

I have a gripe with all these online courses. They only target beginners or they target advanced users. I have done hours of googling to find a stuctured course which teaches "intermediate" CSS...I am not a CSS newbie but I am also not an expert who is interested in animations, etc I can may be use bootstrap and make grid based layouts that are non responsive. I am yet to find a course which will help me make, lets say, a hacker news UI or reddit UI. I can guarantee you that all these courses fall short of that.

memonkey 11y ago
With CSS, it's a little more do it yourself and finding out the best/efficient hacks [sic] to solve a problem. If you can create a grid based layout, you can make a hacker news clone with html/css.
firstworldman 11y ago
I'm not endorsing this program at all, but Bloc's Rails curriculum has students build a Reddit clone from the ground up. In fact, there's a wealth of free tutorials online for building Reddit-style sites. If all you're looking to build is the UI, I'm not sure you'd need much more than to tinker around with Bootstrap.
timdorr 11y ago
General Assembly doesn't offer online courses. It's solely in-person training.
strmpnk 11y ago
While GA has a minimal online presence, I'd agree that there is a notable lack of courses designed to take a practicing professional from intermediate to advanced. This is likely due to the problem of finding a classroom sized audience at any given time that shares a significant enough background on a topic yet still finding that there common set of things they all lack. While I have ideas on how this could be solved to some extent, most of the time it's going to be a limitation of finding an audience that's willing to pay the same amount as someone who's looking to start a new career. Some of these students have a very strong drive to start something new. An established practitioner is unlikely to have feel as strongly and thus much less likely to pay the same sorts of rates.
MaysonL 11y ago
Take a look at lynda.com: they seem to have 30 fairly short CSS courses.
rwhitman 11y ago
I've been kind of knocking around the idea of drafting up online courses in that area. Shrugged it off as potentially not having enough demand, but your comment is interesting. Love to learn more about the courses you're hunting for, can you elaborate?
- rgovind 11y ago
  So, Bit background about me. I am a compiler developer who has over the years picked up HTML/JS & CSS by reading/doing various tutorials. Now, I am good with HTML & JS but I am not able to make good looking websites. I know the very basics of CSS, have done various online tutorials, bought a bunch of books etc. Because of all this, I consider myself to be "intermediate" level CSS person (not advanced, not beginner). Now, 90% of courses on udemy, coursera start with teaching how to use HTML &(gasp) editor. Then they teach CSS tags, selectors etc. I am past the basics but cannot make Airbnb or Hipmunk quality. The projects they make you is basic portfolio. There are no courses (or they are very hard to google for)... I am ready to pay 200-300$ for someone who will teach to make me quality, complex UIs(like Hipmunk). So courses I am looking for 1) CSS for backend engineers 2) Advanced bootstrap (or other frontend foundations) 3 At this point, I am able to think of any course I would be interested in. Feel free to email me. Address in my profile.
orrinward 11y ago
As stated by others, GA's focus is 12-week intensive full time "career-changer" courses. The company I work for recently took in 4 graduates from Makers Academy (similar to GA WDI) and after a 3 month trial we've decided to keep 3 of them on as Junior Full Stack devs. I'm incredibly impressed at the standard that comes out of Makers Academy in particular, and think they are trained to be better suited for work than a 3 year Comp-Psi bachelors in the most part.

by rgovind 11y ago

memonkey 11y ago

With CSS, it's a little more do it yourself and finding out the best/efficient hacks [sic] to solve a problem. If you can create a grid based layout, you can make a hacker news clone with html/css.

firstworldman 11y ago

I'm not endorsing this program at all, but Bloc's Rails curriculum has students build a Reddit clone from the ground up. In fact, there's a wealth of free tutorials online for building Reddit-style sites. If all you're looking to build is the UI, I'm not sure you'd need much more than to tinker around with Bootstrap.

timdorr 11y ago

General Assembly doesn't offer online courses. It's solely in-person training.

strmpnk 11y ago

While GA has a minimal online presence, I'd agree that there is a notable lack of courses designed to take a practicing professional from intermediate to advanced. This is likely due to the problem of finding a classroom sized audience at any given time that shares a significant enough background on a topic yet still finding that there common set of things they all lack. While I have ideas on how this could be solved to some extent, most of the time it's going to be a limitation of finding an audience that's willing to pay the same amount as someone who's looking to start a new career. Some of these students have a very strong drive to start something new. An established practitioner is unlikely to have feel as strongly and thus much less likely to pay the same sorts of rates.

MaysonL 11y ago

Take a look at lynda.com: they seem to have 30 fairly short CSS courses.

rwhitman 11y ago

I've been kind of knocking around the idea of drafting up online courses in that area. Shrugged it off as potentially not having enough demand, but your comment is interesting. Love to learn more about the courses you're hunting for, can you elaborate?

rgovind 11y ago
So, Bit background about me. I am a compiler developer who has over the years picked up HTML/JS & CSS by reading/doing various tutorials. Now, I am good with HTML & JS but I am not able to make good looking websites. I know the very basics of CSS, have done various online tutorials, bought a bunch of books etc. Because of all this, I consider myself to be "intermediate" level CSS person (not advanced, not beginner). Now, 90% of courses on udemy, coursera start with teaching how to use HTML &(gasp) editor. Then they teach CSS tags, selectors etc. I am past the basics but cannot make Airbnb or Hipmunk quality. The projects they make you is basic portfolio. There are no courses (or they are very hard to google for)... I am ready to pay 200-300$ for someone who will teach to make me quality, complex UIs(like Hipmunk). So courses I am looking for 1) CSS for backend engineers 2) Advanced bootstrap (or other frontend foundations) 3 At this point, I am able to think of any course I would be interested in. Feel free to email me. Address in my profile.

orrinward 11y ago

As stated by others, GA's focus is 12-week intensive full time "career-changer" courses. The company I work for recently took in 4 graduates from Makers Academy (similar to GA WDI) and after a 3 month trial we've decided to keep 3 of them on as Junior Full Stack devs. I'm incredibly impressed at the standard that comes out of Makers Academy in particular, and think they are trained to be better suited for work than a 3 year Comp-Psi bachelors in the most part.