I would like he to define lost. Fogbugz is still around and profitable. I have always seen Fogbugz as a support tool first, bug tracking kindof it's what they

I would like he to define lost. Fogbugz is still around and profitable. I have always seen Fogbugz as a support tool first, bug tracking kindof it's what they built for Fogcreek's process(for Copilot support and development). If you did everything like them it probably was a great fit. Jira on the other hand I have always seen as bug tracker.