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this week's political activity, discrediting Carly. Brought to you by all left leaning news sites, blogs, and now, Hacker's News. Really guys, the first three

this week's political activity, discrediting Carly. Brought to you by all left leaning news sites, blogs, and now, Hacker's News. Really guys, the first three sentences should have made this tripe obvious. Expect submission after submission that are purely political hidden under techy click bait titles. We need a new flag, "political"

DavidAdams 11y ago
While it may be a hit piece, everyone at HN already thought that Carly Fiorina is a bad leader and that her tenure at HP should be hung like a millstone around her neck, not touted as her #1 qualification. Democrats can read this and feel smug about the Republican primary shitshow. Republicans can read this and feel consternation that such a bad candidate has been gaining credibility in the primary. I don't think this article is political. It's just anti-Fiorina. It's not making fun of people for supporting her. It's ringing an alarm bell for people outside of the tech world that Fiorina's signature achievement was tanking one of America's finest technology companies.
- DonHopkins 11y ago
  Seriously, this. HP used to have such a sterling reputation of innovative engineering and high quality products. It's really sad what she did to it, and pathetic how defensive and delusional Republicans are about any criticism of her, no matter how valid and well substantiated by the facts. But when a political party has systematically driven away so many qualified women and minorities, they have to make do with the bottom-of-the-barrel dregs of token candidates that they have left, and pretend their naked emperors wear beautiful clothes. Republicans should spend their energy cleaning up their own act, rather than attacking people for criticizing it.
DonHopkins 11y ago
Are you suggesting she has any credibility at all to discredit?
vdnkh 11y ago
I dislike Carly but I agree with you. Liberal hand-wringing doesn't belong on HN.
- sremani 11y ago
  This is not liberal handwringing, its is an analysis of a SV exec about the work she did in while in SV as CEO of HP.
GabrielF00 11y ago
Setting aside all the political stuff, it's hard to see how this deal made any sense for HP. Apple got better distribution for their iPods, kept a competitor out of the market, and got their software installed on a ton of Windows computers. What did HP get other than a few bucks per iPod+HP sold?
- ansible 11y ago
  If its any consolation to the HP folks, Apple did something similar with Motorola. The MOTO ROKR was intentionally crippled, and designed to fail. It was merely created to delay Motorola entering the media business on their own. Not that they would have been any more successful than HP had they tried on their own...
bitwize 11y ago
Rational people tend to be progressive and "left leaning" (by American standards; by world standards this country is a right-wing powder keg). The sheer idiocy of the American right is certainly relevant to hackers as an interesting and difficult problem, just like the housing situation in San Francisco or that malaria and Alzheimer's continue to exist.
- pauleastlund 11y ago
  I rarely take the time to comment on HN or submit content but I'm occasionally really tempted to earn enough karma that I can down-vote arrogant, condescending, asinine posts like this one. Neither side of the political spectrum has anything like a monopoly on "rational people" and "the sheer idiocy of [people who disagree with bitwize]" is not "relevant to hackers as an interesting and difficult problem."
  - hfourm 11y ago
    Well... I am not agreeing that his comment was a bit cray. But isn't it common knowledge that generally more educated areas of the country are also more "progressive/left leaning"? Obviously there are exceptions, but even an intelligent man can cling to the wrong idea ;)
  - 0xFFC 11y ago
    That is not true . At least in my experience . All the rational people I've ever met in my whole life was liberal and big chunk of them were disappointed in political system (which makes them out of spectrum in left side ). For example even Noam Chomsky (which is far left in today US definition) prefer Obama (despite he knows Obama is just another politician who work for wall street instead of people ,but at least he is not going to put country in danger) to some crazy person at the other hand. I was fairly disappointed when I saw that comment down voted in HN . And I am from other country , I can see (in compare to my country) how exactly Right wing using deceive people with its control over money/media. About the monopoly maybe your left wing is Clinton ( which don't have any monopoly on rational people , because all know she is clown of wall street) , but true left wing (like Lessig Lawrence / Bernie Sanders / etc ) completely have monopoly on rational people in compare to right side , specially academic people in human science branches.
sremani 11y ago
Ms.Fiorina not only acknowledges her association with Silicon Valley, but tauts it, while name dropping SVs and CEOs. So, if anyone discusses her CEO-ship under Microscope, it becomes a political hit piece? Of course, her current presidential run and doing good in polls is getting this kind of attention, but this is not a he said - she said. The body of work is already laid there and the article does narrate a sequence of events which demonstrates her last stint as an Executive.

DavidAdams 11y ago

While it may be a hit piece, everyone at HN already thought that Carly Fiorina is a bad leader and that her tenure at HP should be hung like a millstone around her neck, not touted as her #1 qualification. Democrats can read this and feel smug about the Republican primary shitshow. Republicans can read this and feel consternation that such a bad candidate has been gaining credibility in the primary. I don't think this article is political. It's just anti-Fiorina. It's not making fun of people for supporting her. It's ringing an alarm bell for people outside of the tech world that Fiorina's signature achievement was tanking one of America's finest technology companies.

DonHopkins 11y ago
Seriously, this. HP used to have such a sterling reputation of innovative engineering and high quality products. It's really sad what she did to it, and pathetic how defensive and delusional Republicans are about any criticism of her, no matter how valid and well substantiated by the facts. But when a political party has systematically driven away so many qualified women and minorities, they have to make do with the bottom-of-the-barrel dregs of token candidates that they have left, and pretend their naked emperors wear beautiful clothes. Republicans should spend their energy cleaning up their own act, rather than attacking people for criticizing it.

DonHopkins 11y ago

Are you suggesting she has any credibility at all to discredit?

vdnkh 11y ago

I dislike Carly but I agree with you. Liberal hand-wringing doesn't belong on HN.

sremani 11y ago
This is not liberal handwringing, its is an analysis of a SV exec about the work she did in while in SV as CEO of HP.

GabrielF00 11y ago

Setting aside all the political stuff, it's hard to see how this deal made any sense for HP. Apple got better distribution for their iPods, kept a competitor out of the market, and got their software installed on a ton of Windows computers. What did HP get other than a few bucks per iPod+HP sold?

ansible 11y ago
If its any consolation to the HP folks, Apple did something similar with Motorola. The MOTO ROKR was intentionally crippled, and designed to fail. It was merely created to delay Motorola entering the media business on their own. Not that they would have been any more successful than HP had they tried on their own...

bitwize 11y ago

Rational people tend to be progressive and "left leaning" (by American standards; by world standards this country is a right-wing powder keg). The sheer idiocy of the American right is certainly relevant to hackers as an interesting and difficult problem, just like the housing situation in San Francisco or that malaria and Alzheimer's continue to exist.

pauleastlund 11y ago
I rarely take the time to comment on HN or submit content but I'm occasionally really tempted to earn enough karma that I can down-vote arrogant, condescending, asinine posts like this one. Neither side of the political spectrum has anything like a monopoly on "rational people" and "the sheer idiocy of [people who disagree with bitwize]" is not "relevant to hackers as an interesting and difficult problem."
- hfourm 11y ago
  Well... I am not agreeing that his comment was a bit cray. But isn't it common knowledge that generally more educated areas of the country are also more "progressive/left leaning"? Obviously there are exceptions, but even an intelligent man can cling to the wrong idea ;)
- 0xFFC 11y ago
  That is not true . At least in my experience . All the rational people I've ever met in my whole life was liberal and big chunk of them were disappointed in political system (which makes them out of spectrum in left side ). For example even Noam Chomsky (which is far left in today US definition) prefer Obama (despite he knows Obama is just another politician who work for wall street instead of people ,but at least he is not going to put country in danger) to some crazy person at the other hand. I was fairly disappointed when I saw that comment down voted in HN . And I am from other country , I can see (in compare to my country) how exactly Right wing using deceive people with its control over money/media. About the monopoly maybe your left wing is Clinton ( which don't have any monopoly on rational people , because all know she is clown of wall street) , but true left wing (like Lessig Lawrence / Bernie Sanders / etc ) completely have monopoly on rational people in compare to right side , specially academic people in human science branches.

sremani 11y ago

Ms.Fiorina not only acknowledges her association with Silicon Valley, but tauts it, while name dropping SVs and CEOs. So, if anyone discusses her CEO-ship under Microscope, it becomes a political hit piece? Of course, her current presidential run and doing good in polls is getting this kind of attention, but this is not a he said - she said. The body of work is already laid there and the article does narrate a sequence of events which demonstrates her last stint as an Executive.