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> You might just as productively argue that there is no such thing as a modern single-user system, since Windows isn't that either. His point is pretty clear.
by quesera 11y ago
> You might just as productively argue that there is no such thing as a modern single-user system, since Windows isn't that either. His point is pretty clear.
Correct, and nonprivileged users can't install software globally on Windows either. Because it's now a modern OS, and that's how things are done. For very good reasons.
His point, as far as I can tell, amounts to: applications should be able to trash permissions on convenient directories and not have the OS complain or repair their damage.
Perhaps I'm being ungenerous here? I apologize if so.
On re read, I realize that tptacek is responding only to the SIP part of the discussion. OK, SIP is surprising to desktop computer users. But it's a good feature that requires a little adjustment to work with. But really not much, and none for the vast majority of users who don't muck with system directories.
- tptacek 11y agoHe's arguing that users should be able to elevate their privileges by supplying root's credentials and then create a simple directory without having to reboot. I more agree with you than with him, but his argument seems pretty straightforward.
- quesera 11y agoWell, if you unwind far enough, I think the original discussion was about why Homebrew has trouble using /usr/local. Where "using" means "owning, adding git repos to, changing permissions on, etc". OSX suggests /usr/local as a good location to install software, but insists that the directory itself be owned by root, and protects the parent directory /usr under SIP. My assertion is that Homebrew is using /usr/local incorrectly (and in contravention to all expectation), and that blaming Apple for the problems thereby created is inappropriate. I also think SIP is a good thing.