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Bullshit. Nobody forces you to live in an expensive city. Nobody makes you buy a million dollar house. You chose your own destiny. Stop putting the blame on oth

Bullshit. Nobody forces you to live in an expensive city. Nobody makes you buy a million dollar house. You chose your own destiny. Stop putting the blame on others. I lived in Chicago on a $800/mo salary for a year and a half. Yes eight hundred dollars a month, in the city of Chicago. I had no money, but I made it work, then I moved back home to small town Iowa and make a lot more now, and live a better life. Nobody made me do either of those things.

mhurron 11y ago
> Nobody forces you to live in an expensive city. It takes money move, to or from any city. It's nice that you were able to make it work, and yes, it means others could as well but you wold look like a little less of an asshole if you would consider not everyone is in the same situation as you were. Were you single Did you have kids Did you have any medical conditions that needed care Did you use to have a better job before That's just a few things that are part of everyday, normal life that can make the cost of moving and living on very little somewhat difficult. > Nobody makes you buy a million dollar house I don't remember saying anything close to that.
- Killswitch 11y ago
  > Were you single No. > Did you have kids Yes. > Did you have any medical conditions that needed care Not that I know of. > Did you use to have a better job before I moved to the city with a $100 loan from my step-father so I could afford gas to do the 4 hour drive taking nothing with me but what I could fit in my car, which took a 3rd of that $800/mo just to pay. You know how I moved? I asked a friend, he came and helped me and packed his truck with what I couldn't fit in my car. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
  - mhurron 11y ago
    You know that lack of empathy is a significant personality disorder. > Did you have any medical conditions that needed care > Not that I know of. Others do, it's often sort of important to handle them. It can also limit the cities you can live in. > Were you single > No. Right here I start thinking your now being disingenuous, second income? > car, which took a 3rd of that $800/mo So you lived in Chicago on 528 a month and saved enough to move. You are leaving things out. This was either 40 years ago, you were getting significant social assistance or something. Lets go ahead and throw out another perfectly, though unfortunate, normal situation. You had parents to even move back in with. Now then, I don't live in a particularly expensive city. The 'million dollar house' you want to keep throwing around as if everyone has is almost 10 times the cost of where I live. Yet I can still see that not every one is in the exact same situation I am in. Moving to another city would not be something I could do on a whim, though I've had to cover medical expenses this year that are more than what your supposed monthly income was.
    - Killswitch 11y ago
      > The 'million dollar house' you want to keep throwing around I mentioned it once. You're the one who keeps bringing it back up. > Right here I start thinking your now being disingenuous, second income? No second income. My fiance has never, and will never pay anything for me. > So you lived in Chicago on 528 a month and saved enough to move. You are leaving things out. This was either 40 years ago, you were getting significant social assistance or something. Oh sorry, I left out the $600/mo the startup I worked for paid the owner of the spare bedroom I lived in. My bad. $1400/mo. And 40 years ago? I'm 30, I moved from Chicago in March of this year.
      - lovich 11y ago
        >Oh sorry, I left out the $600/mo the startup I worked for paid the owner of the spare bedroom I lived in. My bad. $1400/mo. And 40 years ago? I'm 30, I moved from Chicago in March of this year. Were your SO and kids not living with you? I cant imagine putting 3+ people into a spare bedroom. If you guys did do that, its impressive but its certainly not within the realm of normal in the US. If you didn't have them with you, than saying you had 1400 a month to support yourself, your SO, and your kid/s is not an accurate accounting of your living expenses for Chicago
brianwawok 11y ago
Agreed. It's dumb to devolve this argument down to "But what if you have cancer and 7 dogs and 3 kids, how would you move?" Because the average person reading hacker news with a tech job in the valley does not have 7 dogs and 3 kids and cancer. We can feel sorry for that person, but I am pretty sure we can blame all 200k software developers living in SF as having 7 dogs 3 kids and cancer.
hammock 11y ago
I had a buddy that lived in a coffin apartment in Chinatown (Chicago) for <$200/mo. He was a struggling musician and I was impressed at his ability to make it work

mhurron 11y ago

> Nobody forces you to live in an expensive city. It takes money move, to or from any city. It's nice that you were able to make it work, and yes, it means others could as well but you wold look like a little less of an asshole if you would consider not everyone is in the same situation as you were. Were you single Did you have kids Did you have any medical conditions that needed care Did you use to have a better job before That's just a few things that are part of everyday, normal life that can make the cost of moving and living on very little somewhat difficult. > Nobody makes you buy a million dollar house I don't remember saying anything close to that.

Killswitch 11y ago
> Were you single No. > Did you have kids Yes. > Did you have any medical conditions that needed care Not that I know of. > Did you use to have a better job before I moved to the city with a $100 loan from my step-father so I could afford gas to do the 4 hour drive taking nothing with me but what I could fit in my car, which took a 3rd of that $800/mo just to pay. You know how I moved? I asked a friend, he came and helped me and packed his truck with what I couldn't fit in my car. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
- mhurron 11y ago
  You know that lack of empathy is a significant personality disorder. > Did you have any medical conditions that needed care > Not that I know of. Others do, it's often sort of important to handle them. It can also limit the cities you can live in. > Were you single > No. Right here I start thinking your now being disingenuous, second income? > car, which took a 3rd of that $800/mo So you lived in Chicago on 528 a month and saved enough to move. You are leaving things out. This was either 40 years ago, you were getting significant social assistance or something. Lets go ahead and throw out another perfectly, though unfortunate, normal situation. You had parents to even move back in with. Now then, I don't live in a particularly expensive city. The 'million dollar house' you want to keep throwing around as if everyone has is almost 10 times the cost of where I live. Yet I can still see that not every one is in the exact same situation I am in. Moving to another city would not be something I could do on a whim, though I've had to cover medical expenses this year that are more than what your supposed monthly income was.
  - Killswitch 11y ago
    > The 'million dollar house' you want to keep throwing around I mentioned it once. You're the one who keeps bringing it back up. > Right here I start thinking your now being disingenuous, second income? No second income. My fiance has never, and will never pay anything for me. > So you lived in Chicago on 528 a month and saved enough to move. You are leaving things out. This was either 40 years ago, you were getting significant social assistance or something. Oh sorry, I left out the $600/mo the startup I worked for paid the owner of the spare bedroom I lived in. My bad. $1400/mo. And 40 years ago? I'm 30, I moved from Chicago in March of this year.
    - lovich 11y ago
      >Oh sorry, I left out the $600/mo the startup I worked for paid the owner of the spare bedroom I lived in. My bad. $1400/mo. And 40 years ago? I'm 30, I moved from Chicago in March of this year. Were your SO and kids not living with you? I cant imagine putting 3+ people into a spare bedroom. If you guys did do that, its impressive but its certainly not within the realm of normal in the US. If you didn't have them with you, than saying you had 1400 a month to support yourself, your SO, and your kid/s is not an accurate accounting of your living expenses for Chicago

brianwawok 11y ago

Agreed. It's dumb to devolve this argument down to "But what if you have cancer and 7 dogs and 3 kids, how would you move?" Because the average person reading hacker news with a tech job in the valley does not have 7 dogs and 3 kids and cancer. We can feel sorry for that person, but I am pretty sure we can blame all 200k software developers living in SF as having 7 dogs 3 kids and cancer.

hammock 11y ago

I had a buddy that lived in a coffin apartment in Chinatown (Chicago) for <$200/mo. He was a struggling musician and I was impressed at his ability to make it work