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What? Glossip hired a hitman to kill someone. How is that not murder? Just because you're wealthy enough to not do the dirty work means you're somehow above the

What? Glossip hired a hitman to kill someone. How is that not murder? Just because you're wealthy enough to not do the dirty work means you're somehow above the DP, but poor people who can't should get the DP? That's insane! There are irregular aspects to this case, but the idea of hitman hirers being immune from the DP is pretty crazy. That's the same as murdering someone with your own hands, both morally and legally.

halosghost 11y ago
> Just because you're wealthy enough to not do the dirty work means you're somehow above the DP, but poor people who can't should get the DP? This is actually not a good argument at all in-favor of the death penalty for this person but rather another great argument for its elimination entirely.
mszyndel 11y ago
The problem is he may have not hired that hitman and whole this may have been made up by other convict to get lower sentence...
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  Glossip's first lawyer claims that the police made this up and convinced Sneed to say Glossip hired him. The lawyer says the full interrogation wasn't showed, but a redacted version where the police first prime Sneed then start recording his "good" answers. It is troubling that there's zero evidence other than the word of a "hitman".
ak39 11y ago
No, what's insane is the collective desire, the organised process, the co-opting of doctors against their Hippocratic Oath to see the end of another human being's life. Guilty or not, the idea of "punishing" by killing is barbaric, illogical and uneducated. The field of neuroscience based psychiatry and the works of the great minds like Robert Sapolsky must prevail. This has to stop.
- happyscrappy 11y ago
  >the co-opting of doctors against their Hippocratic Oath to see the end of another human being's life So you want to ban abortion? Assisted suicide?
  - ak39 11y ago
    Do I "want" an end to elected abortion? Yes. Do I "want" to stop assisted suicide? No. Do I "want" an end to organised execution of convicted criminals? Yes. Your move.
    - happyscrappy 11y ago
      Does assisted suicide not break the Hippocratic Oath?
      - ak39 11y ago
        Not all the time. These points: 1. There are times when doctors, in order to reduce pain in their patients, accelerate their death as part of pain management. This is usually done at the end of long incurable illnesses or injuries from which recovery is unlikely. The consequence of alleviating pain can be death. Whether it is thought of deliberately or not by the caregivers/doctors does not matter. The point is that the event of death is hastened directly by the act of helping the patient. 2. The patient is choosing to end his life. (I hope you don't ask what is to be done with depression/suicidal patients.) ... and lastly, and simply: 3. Many times the assistance may be done by a non-doctor - so the Hippocratic Oath may not apply directly.
neoCrimeLabs 11y ago
The only evidence he hired anyone is from the testimony of the already convicted murderer in exchange for not going to death row himself. How many people would readily lie to avoid the death penalty, especially when there is no doubt he comitted murder?

halosghost 11y ago

> Just because you're wealthy enough to not do the dirty work means you're somehow above the DP, but poor people who can't should get the DP? This is actually not a good argument at all in-favor of the death penalty for this person but rather another great argument for its elimination entirely.

mszyndel 11y ago

The problem is he may have not hired that hitman and whole this may have been made up by other convict to get lower sentence...

MichaelGG 11y ago
Glossip's first lawyer claims that the police made this up and convinced Sneed to say Glossip hired him. The lawyer says the full interrogation wasn't showed, but a redacted version where the police first prime Sneed then start recording his "good" answers. It is troubling that there's zero evidence other than the word of a "hitman".

ak39 11y ago

No, what's insane is the collective desire, the organised process, the co-opting of doctors against their Hippocratic Oath to see the end of another human being's life. Guilty or not, the idea of "punishing" by killing is barbaric, illogical and uneducated. The field of neuroscience based psychiatry and the works of the great minds like Robert Sapolsky must prevail. This has to stop.

happyscrappy 11y ago
>the co-opting of doctors against their Hippocratic Oath to see the end of another human being's life So you want to ban abortion? Assisted suicide?
- ak39 11y ago
  Do I "want" an end to elected abortion? Yes. Do I "want" to stop assisted suicide? No. Do I "want" an end to organised execution of convicted criminals? Yes. Your move.
  - happyscrappy 11y ago
    Does assisted suicide not break the Hippocratic Oath?
    - ak39 11y ago
      Not all the time. These points: 1. There are times when doctors, in order to reduce pain in their patients, accelerate their death as part of pain management. This is usually done at the end of long incurable illnesses or injuries from which recovery is unlikely. The consequence of alleviating pain can be death. Whether it is thought of deliberately or not by the caregivers/doctors does not matter. The point is that the event of death is hastened directly by the act of helping the patient. 2. The patient is choosing to end his life. (I hope you don't ask what is to be done with depression/suicidal patients.) ... and lastly, and simply: 3. Many times the assistance may be done by a non-doctor - so the Hippocratic Oath may not apply directly.

neoCrimeLabs 11y ago

The only evidence he hired anyone is from the testimony of the already convicted murderer in exchange for not going to death row himself. How many people would readily lie to avoid the death penalty, especially when there is no doubt he comitted murder?