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Ok, here's argument. > People are wrongfully executed all the time Citation needed. I'm not aware of people who have been persuasively shown to be innocent po
by monochromatic 11y ago
Ok, here's argument.
> People are wrongfully executed all the time
Citation needed. I'm not aware of people who have been persuasively shown to be innocent post-execution.
> Executions serve no purpose for society except to satisfy our thirst for revenge,
Wrong, many studies show a deterrent effect.
> it makes little difference if the person they kill is innocent or not.
What? Of course it does.
> If he turns out to be innocent, they can always execute someone else to save face. Not the ones responsible for his execution, of course.
This hardly deserves a response.
- elektromekatron 11y agoCitation needed. I'm not aware of people who have been persuasively shown to be innocent post-execution. In that case you have done very little research and cannot really be trusted to have an informed opinion on the matter.
- monochromatic 11y agoI'm aware of death penalty abolitionists who argue that innocents have been executed. I'm not aware of persuasive evidence. If it were trivial to find some, surely you would have just posted a link instead of an insult.
- elektromekatron 11y agoCitation needed was the insult here. This isn't some arcane area with difficult to reach resources. And given the subject matter screw politeness. Go do some fucking legwork, asshole.
- monochromatic 11y ago"Citation needed" isn't an insult. It's pointing out an unsupported assertion. "Go do some fucking legwork, asshole" is an insult. I note with some dismay that you still haven't identified a single innocent who's been executed.
- peejaybee 11y agoIt takes only a small amount of induction to conclude that given the number of death row exonerations pre-execution, there almost certainly have been innocent persons executed. If you hold out for conclusive proof, you will probably not find it, as it's a bit of a fool's errand to attempt to exonerate a dead man when you could devote that effort to exonerating one who the state has not yet committed manslaughter upon.
- monochromatic 11y agoWhat premise are you basing that induction on, and how are you excluding the theory that the appeals system just works well?
- dang 11y ago> Go do some fucking legwork, asshole We've banned this account. You can't do this here.
- danielharan 11y agohttp://www.innocenceproject.org/ http://www.innocenceproject.org/
- monochromatic 11y agoYes, death penalty abolitionists argue that innocents have been executed. In other news, sun rises in east.
- Nadya 11y ago>Citation needed. I'm not aware of people who have been persuasively shown to be innocent post-execution. The size of the US list is concerning - and it isn't even complete. There's also the possibility of executions that haven't been further looked into where the person may have also been innocent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_i... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution
- monochromatic 11y agoIn your first link, I'm seeing pre-execution exonerations, not innocents executed. In your second, I'm seeing that some people have "doubts." Not exactly the same as "the wrong person was definitely executed."