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That's true, but the more moderates that leave, the more chances we have at a Snowden 2.0 who is going to throw the family jewels to the internet on his way out
by cryoshon 11y ago
That's true, but the more moderates that leave, the more chances we have at a Snowden 2.0 who is going to throw the family jewels to the internet on his way out the door.
Snowden is still an outlier in people's minds-- they don't know about Binney or Drake. More people from the inside joining these voices would really help.
- tptacek 11y agoTo be fair, it doesn't seem like many HN people know much about Binney and Drake either. Both supported another elaborate system of dragnet surveillance ("ThinThread"), which apparently attempted to use cryptography to mitigate privacy concerns. Both left the agency after ThinThread was jettisoned in favor of "Trailblazer", which had the virtue of being a darling of government contractors. I doubt many of us would have been happy with a full-scale deployment of ThinThread either.
- jonlucc 11y agoAccording to them, ThinThread had the added benefit of completely disregarding domestic communications. Only after the agency gutted the protections did Binney and Drake come out.
- tptacek 11y agoThat is not how I understand ThinThread. Rather, ThinThread does bulk collection, and then applies "crypto" to the problem of keeping the wrong people from seeing domestic communications. The premise of ThinThread is, like other NSA programs, that NSA gets carte blanche access to the AT&T and Verizon firehose.