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Agreed. Humans do not live in their natural state, and are so far removed from it that they do not know what they do not know that they lack. From this manifest
by madaxe_again 11y ago
Agreed. Humans do not live in their natural state, and are so far removed from it that they do not know what they do not know that they lack. From this manifests much of the strife we experience.
We talk of boredom - because we have grown accustomed to the idea that we must fill our time, and society presents antipathy to those who are content to merely sit and think. "What's wrong?" "You look troubled" "Would you like to go do something?"
We talk of depression - and fail to understand that much of that which we place under the term originates from the soulless mechanisation of man, the systemisation of being, the bureaucracy of orthodoxy. I'm perfectly aware that depression is also a natural response to inflammation - but that's not what I'm talking about - rather, those who are classed as depressed simply because they are unhappy with their lacklustre existences.
We used to live in small communities, often on the move, frequently exposed to novelty, in a state of little security and high self-responsibility. Life was short, and older generations didn't end up entrenched, ruling the roost over several consecutive successive generations. There's far more that we don't know about how we once lived than we do know, however.
I am very rarely bored, as there's always something to observe or think about, and the only occasions on which I do end up bored are those on which it's too depressing to think about anything.
I am often depressed by the state in which we live, in our warrens, surrounded by our own filth, closeted and cosseted in hateful little boxes from cradle to grave.
I'm aware that this could be read as a "oh, the good old days were better", but it isn't - it's an assertion that in order to ensure our own psychological and therefore societal well-being, we have to recognise that we have failed to recognise some basic human needs in the structure in which we live - and we have failed to recognise these needs practically since the dawn of civilisation. It works, just about, but it doesn't mean that it's the best possible way of being.
There are two ways out, as I see it:
1) We force ourselves into adaptation, through continued indoctrination and potentially with the aid of technology to alter the very bedrock of human nature - this may be infeasible, and isn't a terribly palatable idea.
2) We address those elements which we lack. This can only arise through experimentation with different ways of living, or through a revelatory and profound re-understanding of the nature of human beings.
If we do neither, as we entrench ourselves deeper and deeper into systemised living, it becomes harder and harder to conceive of alternatives.
I expect I'll get some vengeful replies to this, if any at all - as these ideas are deeply discomfiting, and discomfiting ideas are usually received with hostility.
- cryoshon 11y agoGreat post-- I think we're headed for #1. Indoctrination is already complete, and future technological advances in VR and pharmacology will be sufficient for the rest. The stuff we're not getting we will continue to not get, but we'll get ever-shinier toys to keep us busy.
- fsloth 11y agoI don't get where the vengefullnes would come. You're in a good literary company. Your ideas sound very much what Freud and Marx wrote of modern life - the latter whom was actually really acute about a great many things (despite what other did later in his name). You option #1 sounds basically like Aldous Huxley's 'A brave new world. Lots of modern people have fought with the dilemma you talked about. Quite a many came to the conclusion (Tolstoy, Gandhi, among them) that farm life was the best remedy. Unfortunately a comfortable farm life requires the support of an entire civilization so it's not a scalable solution.
- duaneb 11y agoPerhaps a rejection of agricultural society and a return to nomadic life would help. But then you also face fears about extinction much more readily. Alternatively, working less, vacationing more would help a lot, and make the idea of "less work that needs to be done" more palatable to people who have attached their very values to their careers and being needed by society.
- SupremumLimit 11y agoNomadic life is simply not possible for 7.3 billion people on this planet. It requires much lower population density.
- meatysnapper 11y agoThe gypsies would like to have a word with you. Now it's true the modern nation state puts a damper on them (the essential conflict between nomadic and sedentary societies) it can still be done.