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> $132,000 for the P90D Signature and $142,000 for the P90D Founder edition [0] [0]: http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/30/tesla-model-x-electric-suv-luanch-price
by di 11y ago
> $132,000 for the P90D Signature and $142,000 for the P90D Founder edition [0]
[0]: http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/30/tesla-model-x-electric-suv-luanch-price/ http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/30/tesla-model-x-electric-su...
- threeseed 11y agoThat is pretty amazing pricing. Most premium families would be looking to the Land Rover Evoque ($41K), BMW X5 ($54K) etc But Tesla is pricing it not to compete with the baseline Porsche Cayenne ($58K) but around the Cayenne Turbo S level ($157K). I guess they aren't planning on building a lot of them.
- austenallred 11y agoI spend a lot of time in a little ski town near me (Park City) that is absolutely covered in Porsche Cayenne Turbos. It's the perfect SUV for your family + ski gear + showing off just a little bit that you're really wealthy. I have zero doubt the parking lots next to the ski slopes will be covered in Model X's in a couple of years.
- uptown 11y ago"It's the perfect SUV for your family + ski gear + showing off just a little bit that you're really wealthy." Gull-wing doors seem less than perfect for transporting ski gear.
- austenallred 11y agoYour ski gear goes on a rack on top of or behind the car, both in the Cayenne or in the Model X (http://www.teslamotors.com/tesla_theme/assets/img/modelx/section-allwheel.jpg http://www.teslamotors.com/tesla_theme/assets/img/modelx/sec...)
- uptown 11y agoWonder how rear-mounting compares to top-mounting for overall drag. Anyway, for most users, I imagine you're not driving around with ski gear on your car 99% of the time, so it's a reasonable design decision.
- Kluny 11y agoRear mounting is drastically more efficient. I was going to cite this article as a source, but I see that there aren't any numbers: https://www.google.com/search?q=mr+money+mustache+road+tripping+with+trailer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=mr+money+mustache+road+tripp... Linked anyway for your interest.
- minwcnt5 11y agoRear mounting is not going to work very well for people who don't like road grime getting all over their gear. I'd much rather have a roof box. The model X is really appealing to me other than that detail.
- TrevorJ 11y agoIt's not going on top of the Model X unless you don't want to open the doors.
- blktiger 11y agoHmm, what about the batteries though. The Tesla will have to expend energy to keep them warm right?
- mikeash 11y agoNot while parked. While driving, you do lose range because of that, but it's not catastrophic. The Model S is one of the most popular cars in Norway, so their cold weather capabilities are clearly pretty decent.
- bryanlarsen 11y agoSurprisingly, it doesn't get very cold in the populated parts of Norway. The average winter temperature in Oslo is 23 degrees Fahrenheit (-4C).
- mikeash 11y agoIt looks like Oslo's averages are a couple degrees above Chicago's. I'd call that very cold.
- sz4kerto 11y ago> premium families For a second I thought you are referring to 'premium family' as some kind of a social category.
- morgante 11y agoIsn't he though?
- soccerdave 11y agoOf course he is, where I live in the US 142k could buy you a nice 1400 square foot house.
- lotu 11y agoI wish I could buy a nice 1400 square foot house where I live.
- pjc50 11y agoIn central London that buys you .. a garage.
- ultrafez 11y agoFor a car that you never use because choosing to driving in London is a questionable choice.
- reitoei 11y agoIt wouldn't buy you a fifth of a garage: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2813958/Tiny-shed-patch-scrubland-tucked-row-terraced-houses-sold-550-000-s-three-times-average-price-home.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2813958/Tiny-shed-pa...
- camelNotation 11y agoMine is 1400 square feet in a major city and I only paid 130k. You're getting ripped off!
- josefresco 11y agoSee the Model S, which also competes with many, quality sedans from Mercedes, BMW etc.
- threeseed 11y agoIf you look at pricing the Model S is more competing with the likes of Aston Martin. Mercedes, BMW are targeting the premium middle class market especially with the new A and 1 series respectively.
- encoderer 11y agoThat's one way to look at it. Another way is that they've been serving the upper-class automobile market for decades and have been recently introducing cheaper models. A C-class with options will run you $50k now, and $65k on an E which has long been their bread and butter car. I'm less familiar w/ the BMW family but I'm sure it's similar. So I think Tesla is absolutely competing with Mercedes and BMW, though certainly their most high-end models are competing with world class cars of any nameplate.
- runako 11y agoAFAIK the prices announced so far are only for the special editions. Actual pricing will be a bit lower. That said, the P90D is faster at 0-60 (with Ludicrous mode) than the Cayenne Turbo S. So there is that.
- FilterSweep 11y agoIt accelerates faster (3.2 to 4.1). It has a lower top speed (155mph to 176mph).
- dsr_ 11y agoYou do 0-60 -- or more realistically, 5-65 -- at every highway on-ramp in the country. When do you go faster than 100 mph?
- Cookingboy 11y agoYou floor the car each time you get on the highway? Also if we are talking about rolling start Tesla's advantage over the Turbo S would practically melt away.
- greglindahl 11y agoSince Teslas don't make a super-annoying noise when floored, yes, it does appear that Tesla owners frequently floor it, from stoplights, stop signs, and on highway ramps. Yes, a rolling start is a big help on highway ramps. Doesn't help much at stop signs and lights.
- jedberg 11y agoUnless you live in Germany you're not really ever going to hit that top speed. You will however have ample chance to take advantage of the acceleration.
- delish 11y agoThe above poster is drawing a distinction between faster (top speed) and quicker (acceleration). Auto-journalism usually uses this language. In everyday speech, "faster" is ambiguous.
- irl_zebra 11y agoAdditionally, the Model X appears to be significantly faster than the similarly-priced Cayenne Turbo S. Cayenne Turbo S (the fastest Cayenne model) does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. [1] The Model X P90D also does it in 3.8 seconds, or 3.2 with the speed upgrade, which costs $10k on other Tesla models, [2] bringing the total Model X price to $152k to the Porsche's $157k. [1] http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/cayenne/cayenne-turbo-s/ http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/cayenne/cayenne-turbo-s/ [2] http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/three-dog-day http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/three-dog-day
- Roodgorf 11y agoDo you mean the Model X dos 0-60 in 2.8/2.2 seconds?
- itg 11y agoHow long can an electric car like a Tesla maintain heavy acceleration? I doubt it could complete a lap around a track. Meanwhile a Porsche Cayenne will have no problem with that.
- Roodgorf 11y agoAccording to the link it can do a quarter mile in 10.9 secs, so I suppose it depends on what size/type of track you're talking about. Though obviously it wouldn't be able to sustain this for an incredibly long time, I imagine your distance per charge drops significantly at full acceleration.
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- jonknee 11y agoThe Land Rover Evoque, BMW X5 and Porsche Cayenne are all 5 person SUVs that aren't in the same class as the Model X (7 person).
- prawn 11y agoThere's a huge, growing market for premium products in China. And the bioweapon filter feature wouldn't hurt with their pollution levels.
- kamaal 11y agoI think the point was affordability. There aren't a lot of people who will spend 150K+ on a car, where merely owning home(with no mortgage) is a luxury these days.
- prawn 11y agoSure, but my point is that the market for premium goods is growing and even a small sector within a massive country is a lot of potential customers. Obviously their next car will be the one that is accessibly priced and sells in huge volume.
- omfg 11y agoPricing for standard models was noted to be only 5k more than Model S equivalent.
- mikeash 11y agoWhich is a little bit misleading, as the Model S starts at $70,000, but the cheapest Model S that's "equivalent" to a Model X (third-row seats, 90kWh battery, etc.) is over $90,000. So that phrasing might lead one to think that the Model X starts at $75,000, while it's probably $95,000 or more depending on just which features they consider to be equivalent.
- codeulike 11y agoThere will be a Model X 75D or 80D at some point
- mikeash 11y agoTrue, I didn't think about that. They haven't announced any, but that doesn't mean they won't.
- toomuchtodo 11y agoIt's on Elons Twitter account (future expected X battery capacities).
- driverdan 11y agoWasn't the Model X originally supposed to cost a lot less than an S?
- bluthru 11y agoYou're thinking of the next car, the Model 3.