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If I had a family, and disposable income, this would definitely be my vehicle of choice. That said, I liked this bit: "There are three modes: circulate with out

If I had a family, and disposable income, this would definitely be my vehicle of choice. That said, I liked this bit: "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants." Funny regardless, but insane if true.

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Latty 11y ago
Someone just realized it would cost them little to implement this feature and it's a why-not that no one else has.
dingaling 11y ago
Warships and armoured vehicles have used internal overpressure since the 1950s, it's a basic aspect of NBC defence. And it was one of the reasons NATO warships were so sparsely equipped with portholes, no point having overpressure if Seaman Jones can leave a window open. Anyway, it really shows to me what a completely pointless vehicle this is. Yes it's a technical tour-de-force, but it does nothing to move EV adoption forward. The people buying it will primarily be existing Tesla or Cayenne Turbo owners, not lower-middle-class wage-commuters who produce our daily pollution. Only slightly more useful than car-show concept vehicles in that regard. If Tesla were to attack the low-end, where the majority of car sales occur, then I'd pay attention. But the proft margins are razor-thin there. Low-end being Fiesta / Polo territory, looks like we'll have to wait for the Chinese manufacturers to move in there.
- outworlder 11y ago
  > If Tesla were to attack the low-end, where the majority of car sales occur, then I'd pay attention. Then you are not paying attention. Tesla strategy is to start at the top, with higher margins and lower volumes (meaning lower costs) and gradually move down. According to Musk the Model 3 will be available next year and cost $35k.
  - JoeAltmaier 11y ago
    Not sure they can deliver. Their house-battery product was relatively cheap. But it was also ill-conceived and impractical. Largely because of capacity. It was more of a UPS than a house-power-plant, because of the extremely limited time it could run the whole house. Consider: a large fraction of the Tesla car cost is the battery and associated systems. There's a minimum range that's considered acceptable, and even their current models barely achieve that. Using smaller/cheaper batteries to make the car cheaper will violate the minimum-range requirement. No-win here, so far.
    - outworlder 11y ago
      Perhaps, but both the Model S and the Model X are very heavy cars. I guess there are possible savings there.

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Latty 11y ago

Someone just realized it would cost them little to implement this feature and it's a why-not that no one else has.

dingaling 11y ago

Warships and armoured vehicles have used internal overpressure since the 1950s, it's a basic aspect of NBC defence. And it was one of the reasons NATO warships were so sparsely equipped with portholes, no point having overpressure if Seaman Jones can leave a window open. Anyway, it really shows to me what a completely pointless vehicle this is. Yes it's a technical tour-de-force, but it does nothing to move EV adoption forward. The people buying it will primarily be existing Tesla or Cayenne Turbo owners, not lower-middle-class wage-commuters who produce our daily pollution. Only slightly more useful than car-show concept vehicles in that regard. If Tesla were to attack the low-end, where the majority of car sales occur, then I'd pay attention. But the proft margins are razor-thin there. Low-end being Fiesta / Polo territory, looks like we'll have to wait for the Chinese manufacturers to move in there.

outworlder 11y ago
> If Tesla were to attack the low-end, where the majority of car sales occur, then I'd pay attention. Then you are not paying attention. Tesla strategy is to start at the top, with higher margins and lower volumes (meaning lower costs) and gradually move down. According to Musk the Model 3 will be available next year and cost $35k.
- JoeAltmaier 11y ago
  Not sure they can deliver. Their house-battery product was relatively cheap. But it was also ill-conceived and impractical. Largely because of capacity. It was more of a UPS than a house-power-plant, because of the extremely limited time it could run the whole house. Consider: a large fraction of the Tesla car cost is the battery and associated systems. There's a minimum range that's considered acceptable, and even their current models barely achieve that. Using smaller/cheaper batteries to make the car cheaper will violate the minimum-range requirement. No-win here, so far.
  - outworlder 11y ago
    Perhaps, but both the Model S and the Model X are very heavy cars. I guess there are possible savings there.