Yup, I think we're talking about the same thing. Like I said, I couldn't remember exactly where I'd experienced it, having travelled in a lot of mainland Europe

Yup, I think we're talking about the same thing. Like I said, I couldn't remember exactly where I'd experienced it, having travelled in a lot of mainland Europe. But, as a Brit, it's very disconcerting - here, if the pedestrian crossing has a green light, the cars have a red light, and must not go, no exceptions.