And I remember in France how my university professors used to complain that high school students became weak in set theory... I didn't know that the level in t

And I remember in France how my university professors used to complain that high school students became weak in set theory... I didn't know that the level in the US had fallen that far... but it's true that I remember helping a girl in the nearby community college on her math classes and the level of the exercises she had was about the french 7-8th grade math. But of course, I think the emphasis on math in europeans countries is maybe different than in the us. In France, for example, ability in math is the main selection criteria and students who took the scientific curriculum in highschool had 6-8 hours/week of mathematics and for calculating the gpa, mathematics had a coefficient of 7-9 (compared to 3 for english for example). And because the scientific curriculum is considered the most prestigious a lot of students who intend to later study non-scientific specialities like law or business take it.