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Just switched https://wakatime.com/ https://wakatime.com/ to this yesterday... it's so much better than ZeroClipboard! 1. ZeroClipboard has issues with Bootstr

by welder 11y ago

Just switched https://wakatime.com/ https://wakatime.com/ to this yesterday... it's so much better than ZeroClipboard! 1. ZeroClipboard has issues with Bootstrap tooltips on the copy button 2. This doesn't depend on Flash! 3. Gracefully downgrades to a "Press Ctrl+C to copy" message for Safari

stephenr 11y ago
The irony of telling safari users to "press control c" is ridiculous. Safari on iOS doesn't have a control key and on OS X copy is "Command-C" But honestly the idea that someone can't select text and copy it themselves (and thus need this helper) is a stretch of reality anyway so why am I surprised that it doesn't reflect reality in its "fallback" either..
- apinstein 11y ago
  It's not a stretch. If you have a product that "real" people use and phone number for customer support, you will quickly learn the value of a copy-to-clipboard feature. People cannot even successfully select complete URLs at an alarming frequency.
  - stephenr 11y ago
    > If you have a product that "real" people use and phone number for customer support, you will quickly learn the value of a copy-to-clipboard feature Real people have being using regular select + copy operations on their device of choice, for literally decades. I honestly don't understand why every web app developer assumes that their user base is full of people that just picked up a device with a browser and have never used it before.
    - mordocai 11y ago
      We don't assume anything. We take calls from customers where they can't figure out how to copy and paste. We take calls where customers don't even know what a browser is, or a web page, or in some extreme cases how to select a textbox and type in it. Just because your customers (assuming you do web dev) can figure things out doesn't mean everyones' can.
    - andrewchilds 11y ago
      Unfortunately we've already received a lot of requests for click-to-copy in the app my company is building. I'd rather we didn't have to add it (because Flash), but we have to add it. People wouldn't add this feature (along with the bloated library required to make it possible) to their web apps if the demand wasn't there.
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by welder 11y ago

stephenr 11y ago

The irony of telling safari users to "press control c" is ridiculous. Safari on iOS doesn't have a control key and on OS X copy is "Command-C" But honestly the idea that someone can't select text and copy it themselves (and thus need this helper) is a stretch of reality anyway so why am I surprised that it doesn't reflect reality in its "fallback" either..

apinstein 11y ago
It's not a stretch. If you have a product that "real" people use and phone number for customer support, you will quickly learn the value of a copy-to-clipboard feature. People cannot even successfully select complete URLs at an alarming frequency.
- stephenr 11y ago
  > If you have a product that "real" people use and phone number for customer support, you will quickly learn the value of a copy-to-clipboard feature Real people have being using regular select + copy operations on their device of choice, for literally decades. I honestly don't understand why every web app developer assumes that their user base is full of people that just picked up a device with a browser and have never used it before.
  - mordocai 11y ago
    We don't assume anything. We take calls from customers where they can't figure out how to copy and paste. We take calls where customers don't even know what a browser is, or a web page, or in some extreme cases how to select a textbox and type in it. Just because your customers (assuming you do web dev) can figure things out doesn't mean everyones' can.
  - andrewchilds 11y ago
    Unfortunately we've already received a lot of requests for click-to-copy in the app my company is building. I'd rather we didn't have to add it (because Flash), but we have to add it. People wouldn't add this feature (along with the bloated library required to make it possible) to their web apps if the demand wasn't there.
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