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Hat tip to this link http://road.cc/content/forum/165819-whats-wrong-bicycle-helmets http://road.cc/content/forum/165819-whats-wrong-bicycle-helm... but let me

by awjr 11y ago

Hat tip to this link http://road.cc/content/forum/165819-whats-wrong-bicycle-helmets http://road.cc/content/forum/165819-whats-wrong-bicycle-helm... but let me quote a comment from there: Just to save everyone else the time and effort as well as repetitive strain injury I am going to summarise the entire crux of how these responses will go: Someone will kick off with an anecdote about how they or a friend's life was supposedly saved by wearing a helmet. This will be followed by a post saying it isn't much use wearing one when getting driven over by a HGV. Someone else will then link to the University of Bath research. Following again with another anecdote where a helmet was ineffective or lead to more injury. Now someone is going to come and call everyone else morons and telling the other posters to stop pressing for mandatory helmet wearing- despite the fact no one has done so. Someone else will now make an observation about why car drivers or pedestrians don't have to wear them. Mr "Stop-making -me-wear-a-helmet-despite-no one -actually-calling-for-it-to-be-law" will then quote the Australian experience before again insulting those imaginary posters no one else can see who want to make it illegal to ride without a helmet. Someone who hasn't read the previous comments will again post a link to the University of Bath research. A sensible post will then mention Chris Boardman but this will be ignored as the pro and anti-helmet debate hots up. Someone makes a reference to "noddy hats". Someone makes another sensible statement about not forcing anyone to wear one, that it should be personal choice and they choose to wear one. That will then be ignored as the rest of the posters get nasty and call into question each others moral and intellectual standing, again despite NO ONE ARGUING IT SHOULD BE COMPULSORY. Another person again posts about making pedestrians wear helmets. These same comments will then be repeated ad nasueum until suddenly there are hundred of posts all saying the same thing and mirroring the exact same helmet threads that seemingly appear every few days which no one then reads because once you have read one, you have read them all.

awjr 11y ago
Rats didn't get this in fast enough. Look at the explosion of helmet debate comments below :O
rm_-rf_slash 11y ago
Comment of the year. It's astounding how similarly we humans think alike, or how readily we seek an unspoken opinion to state for the sake of imaginary Internet points.
Someone 11y ago
You’re forgetting the ‘Someone’ who will remark that road design plays an important role. Relevant links from the past week that compare two approaches: https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/come-and-see-horshams-east-west-cycle-route-this-saturday/ https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/come-an... https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/the-f325-fast-cycle-route-arnhem-nijmegen/ https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/the-f325-fast-... IMO, almost all cycling accidents are avoidable, also those where the fault is with others (pedestrian, cyclist or car driver) you have no control over. Problem is, to do that, you need to pay attention whenever there is potential for danger. Good cycling infrastructure decreases the fraction of the time that that potential is present from close to 100% (for example, if you are riding a 1m cycle lane next to a row of parked cars, you _must_ look forward to check whether there are drivers in those cars that might open a door into the cycle lane, and stay in that 1m wide lane, and check for cars making a turn into your lane) down to 10% or so. That makes it a lot safer to ride when you aren’t in the physical and/or mental state to pay attention 100% of the time (which is almost always) Oh, and “Chris Boardman”. I like making sensible posts, and accept that ‘being ignored’ sometimes is the price for it.
technofiend 11y ago
You forgot someone noting that since the statistic is for Australians they were most likely falling from their bikes into a pit of venomous wildlife anyway.

by awjr 11y ago

awjr 11y ago

Rats didn't get this in fast enough. Look at the explosion of helmet debate comments below :O

rm_-rf_slash 11y ago

Comment of the year. It's astounding how similarly we humans think alike, or how readily we seek an unspoken opinion to state for the sake of imaginary Internet points.

Someone 11y ago

You’re forgetting the ‘Someone’ who will remark that road design plays an important role. Relevant links from the past week that compare two approaches: https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/come-and-see-horshams-east-west-cycle-route-this-saturday/ https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/come-an... https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/the-f325-fast-cycle-route-arnhem-nijmegen/ https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/the-f325-fast-... IMO, almost all cycling accidents are avoidable, also those where the fault is with others (pedestrian, cyclist or car driver) you have no control over. Problem is, to do that, you need to pay attention whenever there is potential for danger. Good cycling infrastructure decreases the fraction of the time that that potential is present from close to 100% (for example, if you are riding a 1m cycle lane next to a row of parked cars, you _must_ look forward to check whether there are drivers in those cars that might open a door into the cycle lane, and stay in that 1m wide lane, and check for cars making a turn into your lane) down to 10% or so. That makes it a lot safer to ride when you aren’t in the physical and/or mental state to pay attention 100% of the time (which is almost always) Oh, and “Chris Boardman”. I like making sensible posts, and accept that ‘being ignored’ sometimes is the price for it.

technofiend 11y ago

You forgot someone noting that since the statistic is for Australians they were most likely falling from their bikes into a pit of venomous wildlife anyway.