The link also gives unsatisfying reasons for why it says they don't work, e.g. incumbents keep winning elections. I haven't studied the matter really closely,

The link also gives unsatisfying reasons for why it says they don't work, e.g. incumbents keep winning elections. I haven't studied the matter really closely, but from what little I do know of the issue, it makes me wonder--are Arizona, Washington, and NJ examples of the hyper-gerrymandered states that citizen redistricting is supposed to prevent? Could it be that, in those states, they're already starting out from a pretty equitable district layout, such that when the citizenry gets to redraw the layout, it doesn't actually matter much? Or, put another way, how would a citizen redistricting panel work in Florida or North Carolina or Texas?