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If only it had an ESC key (vim), and backtick (markdown) above the Tab key. I don't get it.. they had me for a second, but then that kind of ruins using it for

by davvid 11y ago

If only it had an ESC key (vim), and backtick (markdown) above the Tab key. I don't get it.. they had me for a second, but then that kind of ruins using it for anything "serious". I know, I know.. I'm probably not the target market...

ridiculous_fish 11y ago
The lack of bracket keys [ and ] is most serious.
- wingerlang 11y ago
  How do you know?
nfoz 11y ago
It's missing: `~[]{}|\ I wouldn't be able to type some of my passwords or URLs on this thing. I thought the Chromebook keyboards were bad enough.
- morpher 11y ago
  In the nexus presentation, they mentioned that a few symbol keys were moved up to soft keys to fit the keyboard while keeping a laptop-like distance between keys. So, it might not be super convenient, but you can likely still type your passwords.
- andybak 11y ago
  I've switched to longer passwords but all lower-case - mainly to ease the pain of entering them on a phone. On a proper keyboard it takes the same amount of time to type, it's easier on my brain and you can achieve the same entropy with just a few more characters. (And then some f%£$ing website will tell me my 16 character password is insecure because it's all lower case.)
- ISL 11y ago
  It looks like there's a new meta key "..." immediately to the left of the directional arrows. Perhaps there's a chording mechanism to bring back the symbols? I've been surprised how well I've been able to adapt to the Chromebook keyboard; my daily-driver notebook is a Chromebook with crouton. I think I miss having delete the most. The loss of the windows key as a user-defineable meta key was offset by the fact that I never use caps-lock for anything...
  - nfoz 11y ago
    Fair enough, but the keyboard is why I regret my Chromebook which I also use daily. I thought it would not be a big deal (and I did manage to remap Power to Del -- just don't hold it too long!). But missing F11/F12, home/end/pgup/pgdn, meta, insert, etc. annoys me constantly.
- aceperry 11y ago
  Interesting, what other characters are in your password?
- wscott 11y ago
  I think the presentation mentioned that the keyboard is extended by another row of keys on-screen. Not great, but that is how they intended to fix that.

by davvid 11y ago

ridiculous_fish 11y ago

The lack of bracket keys [ and ] is most serious.

wingerlang 11y ago
How do you know?

nfoz 11y ago

It's missing: `~[]{}|\ I wouldn't be able to type some of my passwords or URLs on this thing. I thought the Chromebook keyboards were bad enough.

morpher 11y ago
In the nexus presentation, they mentioned that a few symbol keys were moved up to soft keys to fit the keyboard while keeping a laptop-like distance between keys. So, it might not be super convenient, but you can likely still type your passwords.
andybak 11y ago
I've switched to longer passwords but all lower-case - mainly to ease the pain of entering them on a phone. On a proper keyboard it takes the same amount of time to type, it's easier on my brain and you can achieve the same entropy with just a few more characters. (And then some f%£$ing website will tell me my 16 character password is insecure because it's all lower case.)
ISL 11y ago
It looks like there's a new meta key "..." immediately to the left of the directional arrows. Perhaps there's a chording mechanism to bring back the symbols? I've been surprised how well I've been able to adapt to the Chromebook keyboard; my daily-driver notebook is a Chromebook with crouton. I think I miss having delete the most. The loss of the windows key as a user-defineable meta key was offset by the fact that I never use caps-lock for anything...
- nfoz 11y ago
  Fair enough, but the keyboard is why I regret my Chromebook which I also use daily. I thought it would not be a big deal (and I did manage to remap Power to Del -- just don't hold it too long!). But missing F11/F12, home/end/pgup/pgdn, meta, insert, etc. annoys me constantly.
aceperry 11y ago
Interesting, what other characters are in your password?
wscott 11y ago
I think the presentation mentioned that the keyboard is extended by another row of keys on-screen. Not great, but that is how they intended to fix that.