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What is the auxiliary stuff that they've dropped? (or will drop/reduce emphasis on) Genuinely curious. I've noted that they seem to have multiple apps in the A
by sandstrom 11y ago
What is the auxiliary stuff that they've dropped? (or will drop/reduce emphasis on)
Genuinely curious. I've noted that they seem to have multiple apps in the AppStore doing similar things.
- mrmondo 11y agoI'm hoping they're dropping the idea of chat. Spending time on that really never made much sense me when their core product is so strong but badly needs some features to better align with modern tech trends such as improved plain text and markdown support.
- craigching 11y ago> ... markdown support Yes, 1000 times yes! I so wish I could author in Evernote using markdown. Getting any sort of rich text done in a note is extremely cumbersome in Evernote, lists for instance.
- mrmondo 11y agoHave you submitted it as a feature request to their support? I get the feeling they just don't have enough people asking for it.
- BostonEnginerd 11y agoI made a feature request quite a long time ago for LaTeX math support. Every few months another person +1s the suggestion. I don't get the sense that they really take the suggestions on the forum particularly seriously.
- craigching 11y agoLaTeX math support would be another awesome feature. I'll go +1 it now as well :)
- lepht 11y agoMarkdown support has been a common feature request for years, with many feature requests in their forums as well as entire blog posts from fairly prominent bloggers – just try googling "Evernote markdown support". I've had the strong suspicion for a long time now that they simply aren't listening to these sorts of feature requests that don't tie into their enterprise/business focus – at least since about 2013.
- xerophyte12932 11y agoTheir official response on the matter is something like: We do not support markdown but have created an API that lets third party developers provide markdown support. One really good example is www.marxi.co
- mrmondo 11y agoThey just tweeted me back saying: "We don't have full markdown support, but check out this post for an update on where our editor is going: https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2015/09/22/the-future-of-writing-in-evernote/" https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2015/09/22/the-future-of-writ...
- sullyj3 11y agoLink seems to be dead. Edit: https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2015/09/22/the-future-of-writing-in-evernote/ https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2015/09/22/the-future-of-writ...
- ghshephard 11y agoI will guiltily admit that Ctrl+Shift+U is hard coded into my finger DNA - I use Evernote for every meeting, every discussion we have, and quickly creating lists (or getting out of list mode) is actually one thing I like about evernote.
- craigching 11y agoI mostly use Evernote on my iOS devices. While I do have a keyboard for my iPad, I am not sure that works there, but I'll give it a go. Ultimately, though, markdown support would be my ideal so that I don't have to learn a new set of key combinations. I already know emacs ;) Plus markdown is easier to use than a key combination like that (IMO of course).
- erkaes 11y agoI recently switch to jotterpad + dropbox for this reason. Plus, now I can quickly edit my notes on PC with vim.
- puranjay 11y agoThere was a point in 2013 when if you weren't doing something related to messaging and chat, you couldn't be one of the cool startup kids
- tempestn 11y agoI don't know what they've dropped, but a few auxiliary features I personally don't use are Skitch, Hello, and Work Chat. I'm sure some people do use them (although I expect few compared to the core product). But everyone uses the editor, and there are significant bugs there that have literally gone unfixed for years. That said, some have been fixed in the past couple months, which is part of why I'm hopeful about this new direction.
- karmajunkie 11y agoPersonally skitch is far more important to me than Evernote itself. If they killed off that app I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
- tempestn 11y agoTotally, and I definitely get that just because I don't personally use something, it doesn't mean it isn't useful. I don't object to any current features continuing to exist. ("Drop" was poor wording.) I would just like to see them focus on bug fixes and the core experience in general over adding _more_ new stuff.
- lukefreiler 11y agoSkitch has potential but I've always felt the integration was terrible and unfinished. It doesn't feel native at all.
- evilduck 11y agoI use Skitch daily... but I don't sync it to Evernote, usually just to screenshot, annotate and dump the marked up image into Slack or an email, I don't use it for anything I want to persist. Other than the sync aspect in the interface I hardly notice it's an Evernote product at all. I could get by with Preview.app and Grab, but Skitch's obnoxious default pink arrows and widely stroked text are perfect for calling out visual errors on projects. Likewise, I use Evernote Scannable every so often without connecting to Evernote because it's a really good scanner app. Exports and emails images without any fuss. I'd be perfectly happy if both apps were spun [back] off into their own entities too. Evernote as a note taking company doesn't do anything for me, but they do have other nice products.
- twalling 11y agoYou know, auxiliary stuff like business socks. https://www.evernote.com/market/feature/socks-en_CA?sku=SOCK00106 https://www.evernote.com/market/feature/socks-en_CA?sku=SOCK...
- PhantomGremlin 11y agoUnbelievable. Too much VC money sloshing around. I know that there's a lot of groupthink in the VC community, and so CEOs aren't always selected strictly on merit. But even I, with no executive experience whatsoever, would know not to OK something like that. As Saint Steven once put it: I'm actually as proud of the things we haven't done as the things I have done. Innovation is saying no to 1,000 things. Why didn't this dialog take place in a board meeting? CEO: thanks for the hundreds of millions of dollars you've invested in us. Here's something new we've done. We're putting your money to good use. WE HAVE SOCKS FOR SALE!!! non-spineless Board of Directors: That's great. Let's all just go back to your office and help you clean out your desk. Then we'll escort you out of the building and the rest of us will reconvene to discuss finding a better steward for the hundreds of millions of dollars we've given you. Edit: just to emphasize, the quote above was from Jobs discussing focus: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/629613-people-think-focus-means-saying-yes-to-the-thing-you-ve http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/629613-people-think-focus-me... IMO startups that aren't making money and that keep having to do rounds of financing need to, most of all, FOCUS. Evernote board should be chanting: FOCUS! FOCUS! FOCUS!
- bduerst 11y agoI'm pretty sure it came from branching out into workspace inventory, like monitor stands, and then jumped into business accessories, like laptop bags and (yes) socks. The margins are already so thick that they probably only had to sell a few to break even.
- sherifmansour 11y agoBut I do think, this is precisely the point they are trying to fix. They all seem like logical moves in themselves, but when you look at them in combination, it's clear an overarching strategy is lacking. From Socks to Evernote Business to Recepie capture..
- lukefreiler 11y agoI believe they got rid of their Food app recently. I'd be so grateful if they ditched Chat (or at least gave options to remove it from all platforms) and accepted that even if we it for work, some of it use it in a personal capacity that does not benefit from social aspects at all.
- mark-r 11y agoI never understood the food app. I figured it was a case of the founder taking "dogfooding" a bit too literally.
- desas 11y agoI found it useful, the evernote browser exception let's you save recipes without the crap and the food app let's you quickly find them and it kept the screen on while you were cooking.