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Yes, about a company losing business, but also about surveillance of foreign business entities (Brazil in this case) Also France (below), and yes, the informat

by jazzyk 11y ago

Yes, about a company losing business, but also about surveillance of foreign business entities (Brazil in this case) Also France (below), and yes, the information was shared: From http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/29/new-wikileaks-documents-reveal-nsa-spied-on-top-french-companies/ http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/29/new-wikileaks-documents-rev... "According to an economic espionage order, the NSA intercepted all French corporate contracts and negotiations valued at more than $200 million in many different industries, such as telecommunications, electrical generation, gas, oil, nuclear and renewable energy, and environmental and healthcare technologies. A second economic espionage order called “France: Economic Developments” shows that information was then shared with other U.S. agencies and secretaries, including the Secretary of Energy, the Secretary of Commerce, the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury. Eventually, this data could have been used to help sign export deals."

tedunangst 11y ago
> shared with other U.S. agencies and secretaries, including the Secretary of Energy, the Secretary of Commerce, the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury. None of those are US companies. This is like every Snowden thread ever. A specific claim was made: the NSA provides private companies with tips. A citation was requested. Instead of evidence for the claim that was made, we get this, that, and the other thing, but never the requested citation. Look, if there's no evidence that the NSA provided a company with tips, then just say "Sorry, I misspoke. I conflated spying activity A with spying activity B."
- jazzyk 11y ago
  True, you have a point, there is no evidence that I am aware of - of this information dissipating to _private_ companies. Just like phone call records were improperly used to spy on unfaithful spouses (which was not disclosed by Snowden docs), it is highly likely it was the case with business intelligence. Your point stands, though - we'll need another Snowden to leak more docs to know for sure :-)

by jazzyk 11y ago

tedunangst 11y ago

> shared with other U.S. agencies and secretaries, including the Secretary of Energy, the Secretary of Commerce, the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury. None of those are US companies. This is like every Snowden thread ever. A specific claim was made: the NSA provides private companies with tips. A citation was requested. Instead of evidence for the claim that was made, we get this, that, and the other thing, but never the requested citation. Look, if there's no evidence that the NSA provided a company with tips, then just say "Sorry, I misspoke. I conflated spying activity A with spying activity B."

jazzyk 11y ago
True, you have a point, there is no evidence that I am aware of - of this information dissipating to _private_ companies. Just like phone call records were improperly used to spy on unfaithful spouses (which was not disclosed by Snowden docs), it is highly likely it was the case with business intelligence. Your point stands, though - we'll need another Snowden to leak more docs to know for sure :-)