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The price is certainly right, but I really don't feel like the specs are any kind of leap that makes me want to upgrade from my Nexus 5. Hexa-core is neat, but

by quasse 11y ago

The price is certainly right, but I really don't feel like the specs are any kind of leap that makes me want to upgrade from my Nexus 5. Hexa-core is neat, but honestly I'd rather have software polish that meant rotating my phone while using the camera in video mode didn't mean some probability of a system reboot. Unfortunately my experience with both the Nexus 4 and 5 is that the stability is either never quite there or actually decreases dramatically as OS updates come out and Google's focus shifts.

georgefrick 11y ago
Yes. With only 32GB, the "Use the cloud, Luke" is a bit pushy. The only thing selling me is the desire to get the USB Type C. I've experienced what you are talking about, every time I get an OTA for the Nexus 5; the performance seems to degrade dramatically. We're looking at spending $400 every 2 years to stay every other gen Nexus? That isn't horrible (55 cents a day or so). But if we pay for services to avoid storage on the phone, the cost rises. Nothing about the CPU/Etc makes me think it's time for an upgrade.
- quasse 11y ago
  Honestly the cloud push doesn't bother me, although I'd suspect I don't go about it the way Google wants. I host my own Subsonic media server which means that I can just set a cache size in Android (5GB right now) and let it automatically download my media as I consume it and push old stuff out of the cache. Combined with Dropbox camera uploads I generally don't use much more than 10GB of storage on my phone.
  - georgefrick 11y ago
    I'm going to check Subsonic out, thanks for the recommendation. Now I really don't need to upgrade.
  - trampi 11y ago
    Just out of curiosity: what mobile network traffic do you have? Over here in germany, i would certainly kill my free 1 gigabyte per month, even with cache size set to ~ 25 gigabyte.
cptskippy 11y ago
A2DP Bluetooth on the Nexus 4 has degraded significantly since it's launch. The current iteration is pretty awful, having to reboot daily to avoid silence gaps, but it's world better than Kit Kat. I don't understand how they could get such an important feature so wrong.
- quasse 11y ago
  I forgot about this but it truly is horrible. Mine somehow gets into a state that not only required rebooting my phone but also restarting my car stereo.
  - cptskippy 11y ago
    I ended up doing a Factory Reset on my Nexus 4 and was close to tearing my car apart to get at the aftermarket Bluetooth Adapter but thankfully decided to check connectivity with a handful of portal speakers I had first and realized it wasn't the car.
noinsight 11y ago
Yeah, my Nexus 4 has started rebooting by itself pretty often and it also keeps "losing" the SIM card somehow (by checking uptime it seems it doesn't reboot, but it still asks me to enter the SIM PIN as if the phone had restarted). Really annoying. It means it's no longer reliable as a phone because you're unable to receive calls after either of those occurs randomly of course. I don't really care about Android either, it's just a cheesy delivery platform for Google services which I don't want. But none of the alternatives seem much better either... Still, I started looking at Apple.

by quasse 11y ago

georgefrick 11y ago

Yes. With only 32GB, the "Use the cloud, Luke" is a bit pushy. The only thing selling me is the desire to get the USB Type C. I've experienced what you are talking about, every time I get an OTA for the Nexus 5; the performance seems to degrade dramatically. We're looking at spending $400 every 2 years to stay every other gen Nexus? That isn't horrible (55 cents a day or so). But if we pay for services to avoid storage on the phone, the cost rises. Nothing about the CPU/Etc makes me think it's time for an upgrade.

quasse 11y ago
Honestly the cloud push doesn't bother me, although I'd suspect I don't go about it the way Google wants. I host my own Subsonic media server which means that I can just set a cache size in Android (5GB right now) and let it automatically download my media as I consume it and push old stuff out of the cache. Combined with Dropbox camera uploads I generally don't use much more than 10GB of storage on my phone.
- georgefrick 11y ago
  I'm going to check Subsonic out, thanks for the recommendation. Now I really don't need to upgrade.
- trampi 11y ago
  Just out of curiosity: what mobile network traffic do you have? Over here in germany, i would certainly kill my free 1 gigabyte per month, even with cache size set to ~ 25 gigabyte.

cptskippy 11y ago

A2DP Bluetooth on the Nexus 4 has degraded significantly since it's launch. The current iteration is pretty awful, having to reboot daily to avoid silence gaps, but it's world better than Kit Kat. I don't understand how they could get such an important feature so wrong.

quasse 11y ago
I forgot about this but it truly is horrible. Mine somehow gets into a state that not only required rebooting my phone but also restarting my car stereo.
- cptskippy 11y ago
  I ended up doing a Factory Reset on my Nexus 4 and was close to tearing my car apart to get at the aftermarket Bluetooth Adapter but thankfully decided to check connectivity with a handful of portal speakers I had first and realized it wasn't the car.

noinsight 11y ago

Yeah, my Nexus 4 has started rebooting by itself pretty often and it also keeps "losing" the SIM card somehow (by checking uptime it seems it doesn't reboot, but it still asks me to enter the SIM PIN as if the phone had restarted). Really annoying. It means it's no longer reliable as a phone because you're unable to receive calls after either of those occurs randomly of course. I don't really care about Android either, it's just a cheesy delivery platform for Google services which I don't want. But none of the alternatives seem much better either... Still, I started looking at Apple.