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> "I'm sure you have a range in mind for this position that's commensurate with fair market rates. And I'm willing to be a team player and probably meet you som

> "I'm sure you have a range in mind for this position that's commensurate with fair market rates. And I'm willing to be a team player and probably meet you somewhere along those lines. Can you tell me roughly what you're targeting for this role?" * This is solid advice. Keep in mind that for recruiters processing candidates is a daily routine. They'll be evaluating you for managerial transparency and probably guess based on your experience and skills your current compensation level. That data point serves as just other market benchmark. They know beforehand, making an attractive offer for you to move will require at least a 10-20% bump.

rgovind 11y ago
Sometime employers try to beat this logic by saying..."when we are making hiring decision, we want to move very fast and have all the information ready. Thats why I want you to give your salary info right away" I don't know how to say NO to that.
- jonnathanson 11y ago
  Honestly, I'd be scared off by a line like that. That tells me the employer wants to play games with you in an attempt to minimize your compensation. Good companies and good recruiters aren't trying to minimize you per se. They want to hire the best people, and they know that the best people have a decent sense for market rates and aren't going to settle for that sort of line. Try to do your research on comps and industry standards beforehand, so that least you're reducing some information asymmetry going into the process with the recruiter. In my experience, you'll actually gain respect for asking about their ranges. It shows you have experience and know your worth. It also establishes you as someone who's been around the block and is no stranger to job offers and the way they really work. This is what separates the entry-level candidate from the managerial-potential candidate.
  - JoeAltmaier 11y ago
    Often the reviewer is an engineer etc who is just trying to fill in the boxes. They aren't gaming you; they are more likely a pawn. The way to say no, is to say no. "I'm not going to tell you my salary history; that pigeonholes me, and makes the unfair assumption that my utility to you is identical to my utility to my last employer. Lets talk about how you value this position. Can you tell me your salary range for others in similar positions here?"
- JSeymourATL 11y ago
  > I don't know how to say NO to that. Start by saying, OK great...Tell me more. Define (without being flip) fast? Days, Weeks, Months? Tell me about the process, who are the individuals that make-up the interview committee?, decision makers involved?, WHO is exactly is the final decider?

rgovind 11y ago

Sometime employers try to beat this logic by saying..."when we are making hiring decision, we want to move very fast and have all the information ready. Thats why I want you to give your salary info right away" I don't know how to say NO to that.

jonnathanson 11y ago
Honestly, I'd be scared off by a line like that. That tells me the employer wants to play games with you in an attempt to minimize your compensation. Good companies and good recruiters aren't trying to minimize you per se. They want to hire the best people, and they know that the best people have a decent sense for market rates and aren't going to settle for that sort of line. Try to do your research on comps and industry standards beforehand, so that least you're reducing some information asymmetry going into the process with the recruiter. In my experience, you'll actually gain respect for asking about their ranges. It shows you have experience and know your worth. It also establishes you as someone who's been around the block and is no stranger to job offers and the way they really work. This is what separates the entry-level candidate from the managerial-potential candidate.
- JoeAltmaier 11y ago
  Often the reviewer is an engineer etc who is just trying to fill in the boxes. They aren't gaming you; they are more likely a pawn. The way to say no, is to say no. "I'm not going to tell you my salary history; that pigeonholes me, and makes the unfair assumption that my utility to you is identical to my utility to my last employer. Lets talk about how you value this position. Can you tell me your salary range for others in similar positions here?"
JSeymourATL 11y ago
> I don't know how to say NO to that. Start by saying, OK great...Tell me more. Define (without being flip) fast? Days, Weeks, Months? Tell me about the process, who are the individuals that make-up the interview committee?, decision makers involved?, WHO is exactly is the final decider?