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Apple says "Less than 0.00673% of customers have been affected by government information requests." That's approximately 1 out of every 14,000 -- seems like a l
by tedd4u 11y ago
Apple says "Less than 0.00673% of customers have been affected by government information requests." That's approximately 1 out of every 14,000 -- seems like a lot to me!
- buffoon 11y agoDefinitely. There was a story a few years ago about the South African postal system delivering 99% of all letters over a period of time. Turns out when you aggregate that across how many they sent they only lost a couple of hundreds of thousands of letters. Percentage is a convenient con used in some contexts.
- forrestthewoods 11y agoHow many customers does Apple have? How many people total is that? It's 6730 per 100,000,000 (hundred million). I think Apple has sold like 700 million iphones. But actual customers is less. So there have been maybe 20,000 or so government information requests?
- amdolan 11y agoHere is some detail I think you'll appreciate: http://www.apple.com/privacy/transparency-reports/ http://www.apple.com/privacy/transparency-reports/
- chinathrow 11y agoAlso, the NSLs do not count against the "government information requests", if I interprete the report correctly.
- mikro 11y agoIt also says that 94% of requests are "Device requests - Law enforcement seeking a stolen device."
- smackfu 11y agoThe trick is telling the difference between that and: "Device requests - Law enforcement seeking a device they claim is stolen."
- jfoutz 11y agowell, put a number on it. Of the "Device request" class, clearly at least some of them really are stolen. So that can't be zero. In fact, I'd bet the vast majority of those claims are indeed stolen phones. I'll give you P(spy) = .01, which feels plausible, around 140 incidents, but we have zero evidence. For something like P(spy) = .1, 1400 requests, I'd want more evidence. It dosn't need to be particularly good evidence, because i don't hold the NSA side to be particularly good. But, you know, still more than vague comments about the state oppressing a vast number of people with undocumented shady tactics. They've been proven to use undocumented shady tactics in the past, but they also seem pretty bad at keeping that stuff secret for long.