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Totally different market (E. Europe) so I don't think this applies but: I was in the exact spot about 7 years ago; I wanted to change jobs, but after I reveale
by raducu 11y ago
Totally different market (E. Europe) so I don't think this applies but:
I was in the exact spot about 7 years ago; I wanted to change jobs, but after I revealed my salary I was getting a +10% offer.
Until a friend told me -- NEVER, EVER, EVER reveal your current salary, either don't reveal it, or just... lie.
So I figured, hey, none of these companies actually required any proof of my current salary, I won't make a written statement, so... why not.
And the next time, I lied, I said my salary was 40% higher than it actually was.
And that's how I got a 50% salary increase :|
- 10dpd 11y agoIf you are prepared to lie to your future employer for financial gain from the very start, it gives an indication as to your integrity as an employee.
- fulafel 11y agoIt's pretty commonly held to be acceptable to lie when rectruiters ask you an illegal or unethical question and not answering would work against your interests. It's kind of tit-for-tat. (Whether you think the pay thing qualifies is another thing. But it's close enough that I wouldn't ask that question)
- theworstshill 11y agoHad a hearty laugh there.
- seiji 11y agoEmployers aren't benevolent entities. You always have an adversarial relationship with regards to compensation and benefits.
- pw 11y agoI can't upvote this enough.
- Spoom 11y agoIf I was an employer asking for your previous salary, the very next request would be for proof.
- raducu 11y agoThat would be very reasonable. But it never happens here, that's why I said it's a different market, and that's why I also lied. Bullshit question obtains bullshit answer. I guess in a perfect world I would have said something along the lines "I'm not allowed to/I'm not confortable revealing that information", or if I really had balls I would have said the truth and STILL ask for 50% more. But I feel I would never have gotten 50% without lying, which is kind of sad.
- jotux 11y agoHonest question, why? What role does someone's previous pay play into what they're worth to a new employer?
- Spoom 11y agoWell, because at best it confirms and solidifies a low anchor for their side of the negotiation, and at worst reveals them as a liar with whom the employer may not want to work.
- rgovind 11y agoJust an FYI for any one reading this. Here in USA, when Apple does background checks, they also get your saary from former employee Source: A friend who recently joined Apple