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>No, i honestly believe you are being willfully ignorant; specifically in this situation precisely because i assume everyone on here has a relatively high basel

by tsotha 11y ago

>No, i honestly believe you are being willfully ignorant; specifically in this situation precisely because i assume everyone on here has a relatively high baseline of knowledge and experience. Which is pretty much what I was thinking about you. >Question: what is worth going to war over? That's very situational. Obviously an attack on the US itself or US forces is something we would go to war over. We might reasonably go to war over a blockade. It was perfectly reasonable to go to war against Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. What we should not do is get involved in other peoples' wars. We should not have been involved in Serbia, say, or Iraq. We should not get involved in Ukraine, or Estonia, or Poland or wherever else the Russians think they have casus belli. >I get the feeling, from rereading your posts, that you may be of the thought group that thinks war is never necessary and always avoidable. You should pay more attention to what you read and less to how you feel. >Having combat units stationed in strategic countries is a small price to pay for avoiding global conflicts. Due to the nature of the global economy, any shooting war between or among the Big 10 means a global crash. No. We should not be going to war over the economic byproduct of other peoples' wars. What's the justification? China attacks Japan, which makes anime more expensive, and therefor we're willing to go to war with China? Go ahead, connect the dots. Incidentally, having combat units stationed around the world doesn't do much to avoid global conflicts. It just means we'll be involved. >I know this will be frowned upon, but in ASoIaF by J.R.R.Martin, the Night's Watch and The Wall serve as great metaphors for the necessity of vigilance. Isn't the man's first name "George"? This is me frowning upon the use of fiction to support a logical argument.

classicsnoot 11y ago
Are you suggesting that fiction cannot be logical? Sorry, i got his name conflated with J.R.R. Tolkien. This is me pokerfacing as you finger a cup of straws. Your ignorance of military tactics renders this discussion pointless. Your statement, "Incidentally, having combat units stationed around the world doesn't do much to avoid global conflicts." when the entirety of the last half of the 20th century stands in direct opposition to your statement is what leads me to believe this. I just sat through Bill Ayers, the terrorist turned professor, for two hours. Of all the drivel he spewed, his objection to military spending was the most aggravating. He says we spend to much money. When asked what would be a better amount, he says "(paraphrasing) I dont know less". when pushed to take a stance, he says something to the effect of "in the modern age there is no real need of a large military." He is working off of the relatively recent trend of remotely operated killing machines. If you asked him, separately, about the CIA drone program, i wonder if he would be supportive. Regardless of our personal sentiments, time will tell. who knows, maybe your camp is right and the world will just be peaceful for the most part, and, when the increasingly rare occasion where a disagreement turns into a conflict they will fight honorably and under self imposed limits. Just like in Syria.

by tsotha 11y ago

classicsnoot 11y ago

Are you suggesting that fiction cannot be logical? Sorry, i got his name conflated with J.R.R. Tolkien. This is me pokerfacing as you finger a cup of straws. Your ignorance of military tactics renders this discussion pointless. Your statement, "Incidentally, having combat units stationed around the world doesn't do much to avoid global conflicts." when the entirety of the last half of the 20th century stands in direct opposition to your statement is what leads me to believe this. I just sat through Bill Ayers, the terrorist turned professor, for two hours. Of all the drivel he spewed, his objection to military spending was the most aggravating. He says we spend to much money. When asked what would be a better amount, he says "(paraphrasing) I dont know less". when pushed to take a stance, he says something to the effect of "in the modern age there is no real need of a large military." He is working off of the relatively recent trend of remotely operated killing machines. If you asked him, separately, about the CIA drone program, i wonder if he would be supportive. Regardless of our personal sentiments, time will tell. who knows, maybe your camp is right and the world will just be peaceful for the most part, and, when the increasingly rare occasion where a disagreement turns into a conflict they will fight honorably and under self imposed limits. Just like in Syria.