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Hopefully this guide will be updated as time goes on to stay relevant as technology changes. Otherwise in a few years from now, everything will look outdated ag

by dfar1 11y ago

Hopefully this guide will be updated as time goes on to stay relevant as technology changes. Otherwise in a few years from now, everything will look outdated again.

timdorr 11y ago
It's all open source and in the public domain: https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards They're also pretty active with the pull request system: https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/pulls https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/pulls and have a CONTRIBUTING guide: https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/blob/18f-pages-staging/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/blob/18f-pages-s... I attended a presentation by one of the people working on the project last week and they put a lot of thought into both how to make this a usable guide for now and how to keep it growing into the future. The USDS has attracted some really great people lately, and it shows!
krschultz 11y ago
Looking outdated isn't the worst thing in a world. I think National Forest signs look like hotel signs from the 1950s, and that's probably not a coincidence. What's more interesting is if this will lead to better maintainability. Since this includes code as well as guidelines, hopefully it will reduce the variation between various agencies' websites. That in turn should make future upgrades more uniform and therefore less costly.
- dbarlett 11y ago
  If you're curious, Forest Service signs are specified by Sign and Poster Guidelines Engineering Manual EM7100-15 [1]. [1] http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3810021.pdf http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3810021...
  - noir_lord 11y ago
    That standard is incredible, I had a good flick through it just in awe of the level of specification that goes into signage, I love that type of stuff, it's a hidden world.
    - Symbiote 11y ago
      The British standards for road signs and markings are also online, and with much better typography :-) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-manual https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-man... (chapter 7 is best, for kerning rules, and making and face the right way).
tjbiddle 11y ago
Well if all gov't websites transition to this - at least they'll all look outdated but still in sync with each other. Not to mention responsive, and still good looking.

by dfar1 11y ago

Hopefully this guide will be updated as time goes on to stay relevant as technology changes. Otherwise in a few years from now, everything will look outdated again.

timdorr 11y ago

It's all open source and in the public domain: https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards They're also pretty active with the pull request system: https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/pulls https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/pulls and have a CONTRIBUTING guide: https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/blob/18f-pages-staging/CONTRIBUTING.md https://github.com/18F/web-design-standards/blob/18f-pages-s... I attended a presentation by one of the people working on the project last week and they put a lot of thought into both how to make this a usable guide for now and how to keep it growing into the future. The USDS has attracted some really great people lately, and it shows!

krschultz 11y ago

Looking outdated isn't the worst thing in a world. I think National Forest signs look like hotel signs from the 1950s, and that's probably not a coincidence. What's more interesting is if this will lead to better maintainability. Since this includes code as well as guidelines, hopefully it will reduce the variation between various agencies' websites. That in turn should make future upgrades more uniform and therefore less costly.

dbarlett 11y ago
If you're curious, Forest Service signs are specified by Sign and Poster Guidelines Engineering Manual EM7100-15 [1]. [1] http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3810021.pdf http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3810021...
- noir_lord 11y ago
  That standard is incredible, I had a good flick through it just in awe of the level of specification that goes into signage, I love that type of stuff, it's a hidden world.
  - Symbiote 11y ago
    The British standards for road signs and markings are also online, and with much better typography :-) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-manual https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-man... (chapter 7 is best, for kerning rules, and making and face the right way).

tjbiddle 11y ago

Well if all gov't websites transition to this - at least they'll all look outdated but still in sync with each other. Not to mention responsive, and still good looking.