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So NSA is now going to intercept each shipment of Blackphone cellphones to bug them like they did with network equipment? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20

So NSA is now going to intercept each shipment of Blackphone cellphones to bug them like they did with network equipment? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-... The problem is that who orders a Blackphone is not completely private and it is a sign that those people have something they want to hide and there isn't that many of them. You almost need a private way of sending Blackphones so that the NSA doesn't know who is getting which phone and then if there is a enough volume of Blackphones you should be okay.

sirtastic 11y ago
/dawns tinfoil -- I ordered a router a few weeks ago. Big upgrade for me from a refurbished buffalo ~$30 several years ago to a $200 quad antenna multi-channel 2gb sex machine. The package though shipped in the states got delayed in route do to "customs" I was informed. Took a few days before it was back on the road. Should I be worried?
- triangleman 11y ago
  dons tinfoil
  - sirtastic 11y ago
    touché
Someone1234 11y ago
If you're the type of person who cares enough about privacy/security to want one these then frankly an NSA postal intercept is a legitimate concern (e.g. journalists, protesters, sensitive whistleblowers, etc). At the very least they will be looking at every single location where a Blackphone is shipped. It might be safer to go to Walmart and buy a pay & go phone and gift cards with cash. Or just stay on Tor sending encrypted messages using PGP. Plus does the Blackphone address one of the biggest security concerns with modern cellphones: The cell modem? We already know the NSA has implants that target the underlying cellular operating system, turning your phone into a bug, or injecting things into the consumer OS (Android, iOS, etc). Baseband is a legitimate security nightmare.
superuser2 11y ago
The NSA intercepts shipments to specific targets, not all devices manufactured. Wouldn't want to risk a security researcher getting access to the compromised version.

sirtastic 11y ago

/dawns tinfoil -- I ordered a router a few weeks ago. Big upgrade for me from a refurbished buffalo ~$30 several years ago to a $200 quad antenna multi-channel 2gb sex machine. The package though shipped in the states got delayed in route do to "customs" I was informed. Took a few days before it was back on the road. Should I be worried?

triangleman 11y ago
dons tinfoil
- sirtastic 11y ago
  touché

Someone1234 11y ago

If you're the type of person who cares enough about privacy/security to want one these then frankly an NSA postal intercept is a legitimate concern (e.g. journalists, protesters, sensitive whistleblowers, etc). At the very least they will be looking at every single location where a Blackphone is shipped. It might be safer to go to Walmart and buy a pay & go phone and gift cards with cash. Or just stay on Tor sending encrypted messages using PGP. Plus does the Blackphone address one of the biggest security concerns with modern cellphones: The cell modem? We already know the NSA has implants that target the underlying cellular operating system, turning your phone into a bug, or injecting things into the consumer OS (Android, iOS, etc). Baseband is a legitimate security nightmare.

superuser2 11y ago

The NSA intercepts shipments to specific targets, not all devices manufactured. Wouldn't want to risk a security researcher getting access to the compromised version.