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I'm not quite sure how I feel about it. Yes, that data was publicly available, but it 'feels' different that there is now an unalterable snapshot available to t

by lysium 11y ago

I'm not quite sure how I feel about it. Yes, that data was publicly available, but it 'feels' different that there is now an unalterable snapshot available to the public. No more comment deletion.

Implicated 11y ago
I believe this is just the submissions, not comments (though, it appears that's already been released), based on the post authors comment... > This dataset will go nicely with the full Reddit Comment Corpus that I released a couple months ago. The link_id from each comment corresponds to the id key in each of the submission objects in this dataset.
Jake232 11y ago
A comment dataset was actually already released a while back.
Houshalter 11y ago
That's already true due to a service called: uneddit reddit: http://uneddit.com/ http://uneddit.com/ and https://www.unedditreddit.com/ https://www.unedditreddit.com/ There's also the web archive and search engine indexing.
ljk 11y ago
> No more comment deletion Isn't that how hackernews is? not being able to delete comments
- CardenB 11y ago
  Yeah but I'm sure a lot of people post on here knowing that they won't delete a comment. It's a different story with Reddit, where people have a lot more expectations and it's bigger.
  - comboy 11y ago
    If somebody believes that he can post something on the internet and then just remove it from existence, then he's probably a politician in EU.
grey-area 11y ago
There's also a backup copy in Utah with all your comments from every site tied to common selectors like your usernames, emails, passwords, ip, credit cards etc. No doubt that'll leak at some point too. So comment deletion was never going to save you.
- tdkl 11y ago
  But we cannot download that one. This is actually what has been bothering me for a while now. In the past where search engines (well at least the big one) weren't that thorough, you didn't mind if something stayed on the Internet, since it wasn't easily accessible. But it's a major difference if it's indexed/searchable or downloadable.
  - hippo8 11y ago
    This is why, I think we need to make ICT (Information Communication Technology) a mandatory subject in our schools. Teach kids about the internet. Many people are still under the assumption just deleting something would make it disappear for ever. Maybe a lot of people from our generation are doomed to sharing too many things online, but we can at least save the next generation from themselves. You make a mistake 10 years ago, may be a few close friends in your town know about you. Now you make a mistake, the whole world has access to that information. Government regulations, bans are not going to do anything to stop the spread of information, we need to educate people to protect themselves from their own selves.
    - eru 11y ago
      Judging by how much of a hash lots of schools are doing with literacy and numeracy (and we've been teaching these things for ages), I don't have high hopes for ICT.
  - grey-area 11y ago
    But we cannot download that one. Not yet :) Given their lax security and general cluelessness of the people in charge, I'm quite sure it will leak at some point, at least partially, perhaps to corporations, perhaps to the public, just as internal NSA docs have leaked. It's very hard to keep things like that airtight forever - all it takes is one slip up and all the info stored could be accessible at some point in the future. It's already indexed and searchable, just not by you. The important point here is that looking at present day tech (as in your comment on search engine prowess) is not the way to look at it - one day all this information will be accessible to much more intelligent future algorithms, able to link it together in myriad ways and form an almost perfect picture of your life in retrospect. The data is there, and will be stored forever.
rl3 11y ago
Agreed; this feels antithetical to Reddit's principles on some level. When the next snapshot is released, it will be possible to just perform a diff to discover all deletions and edits since.

by lysium 11y ago

I'm not quite sure how I feel about it. Yes, that data was publicly available, but it 'feels' different that there is now an unalterable snapshot available to the public. No more comment deletion.

Implicated 11y ago

I believe this is just the submissions, not comments (though, it appears that's already been released), based on the post authors comment... > This dataset will go nicely with the full Reddit Comment Corpus that I released a couple months ago. The link_id from each comment corresponds to the id key in each of the submission objects in this dataset.

Jake232 11y ago

A comment dataset was actually already released a while back.

Houshalter 11y ago

That's already true due to a service called: uneddit reddit: http://uneddit.com/ http://uneddit.com/ and https://www.unedditreddit.com/ https://www.unedditreddit.com/ There's also the web archive and search engine indexing.

ljk 11y ago

> No more comment deletion Isn't that how hackernews is? not being able to delete comments

CardenB 11y ago
Yeah but I'm sure a lot of people post on here knowing that they won't delete a comment. It's a different story with Reddit, where people have a lot more expectations and it's bigger.
- comboy 11y ago
  If somebody believes that he can post something on the internet and then just remove it from existence, then he's probably a politician in EU.

grey-area 11y ago

There's also a backup copy in Utah with all your comments from every site tied to common selectors like your usernames, emails, passwords, ip, credit cards etc. No doubt that'll leak at some point too. So comment deletion was never going to save you.

tdkl 11y ago
But we cannot download that one. This is actually what has been bothering me for a while now. In the past where search engines (well at least the big one) weren't that thorough, you didn't mind if something stayed on the Internet, since it wasn't easily accessible. But it's a major difference if it's indexed/searchable or downloadable.
- hippo8 11y ago
  This is why, I think we need to make ICT (Information Communication Technology) a mandatory subject in our schools. Teach kids about the internet. Many people are still under the assumption just deleting something would make it disappear for ever. Maybe a lot of people from our generation are doomed to sharing too many things online, but we can at least save the next generation from themselves. You make a mistake 10 years ago, may be a few close friends in your town know about you. Now you make a mistake, the whole world has access to that information. Government regulations, bans are not going to do anything to stop the spread of information, we need to educate people to protect themselves from their own selves.
  - eru 11y ago
    Judging by how much of a hash lots of schools are doing with literacy and numeracy (and we've been teaching these things for ages), I don't have high hopes for ICT.
- grey-area 11y ago
  But we cannot download that one. Not yet :) Given their lax security and general cluelessness of the people in charge, I'm quite sure it will leak at some point, at least partially, perhaps to corporations, perhaps to the public, just as internal NSA docs have leaked. It's very hard to keep things like that airtight forever - all it takes is one slip up and all the info stored could be accessible at some point in the future. It's already indexed and searchable, just not by you. The important point here is that looking at present day tech (as in your comment on search engine prowess) is not the way to look at it - one day all this information will be accessible to much more intelligent future algorithms, able to link it together in myriad ways and form an almost perfect picture of your life in retrospect. The data is there, and will be stored forever.

rl3 11y ago

Agreed; this feels antithetical to Reddit's principles on some level. When the next snapshot is released, it will be possible to just perform a diff to discover all deletions and edits since.