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"Stop using new technologies, let's go back to the old ways", said every older generations ever.

agumonkey 11y ago
I feel weird because more and more I start to miss old tech. For many reasons, I feel there were beautiful ideas forgotten too soon (aka AlanKayism). I've also seen a few cycles (from osx aqua, flash, html5, java, js, flat, metro, material, etc, etc) so I'm past being excited for newness. I don't know if it's the absolute natural way of things now that I'm not part the current generation or if there's some value in these thoughts. It's also natural for some to follow new trends for there's a lot of energy in exploring things 'a la mode'. But also not to be blinded into thinking old is useless. Progress is not an arrow, it's a wiggling hyperplane.
- veddox 11y ago
  I'm young, I still find newness exciting. Fortunately I also find history exciting, and one big lesson that has taught me is that it is foolishness to equate "newer" with "better". Often it is, often it seems to be, and often it isn't. The trick is knowing which is which.
  - agumonkey 11y ago
    Exactly. It's especially hard to compare, when things don't move straightforwardly, every new thing is 9/10 old and 1/10 new, and all new things have their own 10th. Things wave back and forth, in spirals. Knowing history avoids looping too much. I didn't understand that about it as a kid (it holds in tech but in society, politics, musics etc too). Good for you you're already sensible to that.
TillE 11y ago
That's not an argument. I mean, there's a similar trap in thinking that anything new is good (or neutral). I don't particularly care about other people's behavior (and I don't have this problem with friends/family), but I can certainly see how it would annoy people, and probably even detract from the experience of the person who is doing it.
smacktoward 11y ago
"I'll just disregard your argument without actually considering or engaging with it because you're old and therefore clueless," said every younger generation ever.
crucifiction 11y ago
Nobody is saying not to use these technologies. We are just trying to figure out as a society what the boundaries are for behavior being OK or being rude. Its kind of like bluetooth headsets or google glass, both of which were questionable at first and later determined by society at large to be rude to use in company.
jeffreyrogers 11y ago
Did you read the article? That's not the argument at all. It's about the antisocial effects of technology and how we as a society haven't yet learned how to compensate for those effects.
gastelum 11y ago
Humm... if only there was a way to analyze what kinds of behaviours can have a bad impact on society instead of mindlessly writing off arguments because 'hurr you're old'.

I feel weird because more and more I start to miss old tech. For many reasons, I feel there were beautiful ideas forgotten too soon (aka AlanKayism). I've also seen a few cycles (from osx aqua, flash, html5, java, js, flat, metro, material, etc, etc) so I'm past being excited for newness. I don't know if it's the absolute natural way of things now that I'm not part the current generation or if there's some value in these thoughts. It's also natural for some to follow new trends for there's a lot of energy in exploring things 'a la mode'. But also not to be blinded into thinking old is useless. Progress is not an arrow, it's a wiggling hyperplane.

veddox 11y ago
I'm young, I still find newness exciting. Fortunately I also find history exciting, and one big lesson that has taught me is that it is foolishness to equate "newer" with "better". Often it is, often it seems to be, and often it isn't. The trick is knowing which is which.
- agumonkey 11y ago
  Exactly. It's especially hard to compare, when things don't move straightforwardly, every new thing is 9/10 old and 1/10 new, and all new things have their own 10th. Things wave back and forth, in spirals. Knowing history avoids looping too much. I didn't understand that about it as a kid (it holds in tech but in society, politics, musics etc too). Good for you you're already sensible to that.

TillE 11y ago

That's not an argument. I mean, there's a similar trap in thinking that anything new is good (or neutral). I don't particularly care about other people's behavior (and I don't have this problem with friends/family), but I can certainly see how it would annoy people, and probably even detract from the experience of the person who is doing it.

smacktoward 11y ago

"I'll just disregard your argument without actually considering or engaging with it because you're old and therefore clueless," said every younger generation ever.

crucifiction 11y ago

Nobody is saying not to use these technologies. We are just trying to figure out as a society what the boundaries are for behavior being OK or being rude. Its kind of like bluetooth headsets or google glass, both of which were questionable at first and later determined by society at large to be rude to use in company.

jeffreyrogers 11y ago

Did you read the article? That's not the argument at all. It's about the antisocial effects of technology and how we as a society haven't yet learned how to compensate for those effects.

gastelum 11y ago

Humm... if only there was a way to analyze what kinds of behaviours can have a bad impact on society instead of mindlessly writing off arguments because 'hurr you're old'.