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But do you find racial slurs acceptable when rappers use them, or when they're used in Hollywood movies, or books like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn? I gue
by a3voices 11y ago
But do you find racial slurs acceptable when rappers use them, or when they're used in Hollywood movies, or books like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn? I guess I don't understand why people selectively find it so offensive.
- DanBC 11y agoWhy do you assume it's selective?
- JohnBooty 11y agoUnacceptable? Offensive? I'm not sure how I could have been any more explicit there. I explicitly said I enjoy reading news about TempleOS. So clearly I accept them even though I don't like his racial epithets one bit. They're just one (somewhat unavoidable) facet of the whole TempleOS phenomenon. I guess I don't understand why people selectively find it so offensive. There's a big difference between fictional characters in movies and Huckleberry Finn (a book I love!) using slurs and a guy like Terry using slurs in earnest in a non-fiction setting. Huckleberry Finn is a create example, actually. Huck uses the n-word freely, but he is an unreliable narrator, and Mark Twain's stories about Huck often parody the shitty racial attitudes of many white Americans at that time.
- classicsnoot 11y agoYou did not address the question as it pertains to hip-hop. I'll make it even larger: are you ok with members of the black community (around your area, i know it is not some monolithic club) using the terms, "nigger" and "bitch" constantly? I just moved to North NJ and i must say i am not OK with it. But if i bring it up i am some kind of 'bigot' that just doesn't understand 'culture'. To reiterate: do you only decry white racism?
- JohnBooty 11y agoHow does this pertain to TempleOS? I mean, I totally understand where you're going with this: The world is so unfair to white people. "Straight Outta Compton" is a big box office hit, but Terry's not allowed to have racist diatribes whenever he feels like it, and it's a double standard because they're both using the n-word. Why can black people call each other that as a term of affection, but it's not okay for white people to use the same word as a slur? Don't worry, you're like the 10 millionth person to go down that line of reasoning and I don't agree with it (bonus points for being even more confusing by throwing sexism into the mix) but I'm also not going to change your mind so it's cool, whatever.
- classicsnoot 11y agowow. at no point was i advocating its use as a pejorative or a term of endearment. you may not be aware, but black folks use both as both. addressing the term 'bitch' should not be that confusing, unless of course you espouse the ultra progressive ideology of always being cognizant of differences (so maximum sensitivity is attained) whilst always being completely blind to difference (so maximum non bias is attained) Then i could so how having to think about use case could get tricky. As much as it might please you to be otherwise, that was not my line of reasoning. i asked if you decry racism against whites (or asians, or latinos, or any subgroup) the same, or to the same level that you decry racism against blacks. Your tirade is answer enough.
- JohnBooty 11y agoDon't confuse a tirade with an effective, accurate parody of your views.
- classicsnoot 11y agoSatire does not typically switch between parody and self righteous condemnation, but maybe your just breaking new ground in the virgin fields of online humor. Still no answer to my question either.
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- Kiro 11y agoI don't think you've seen Terry's comments. They are magnitudes worse than rap lyrics.
- entelechy0 11y agoI don't think they are. His comments are childlike in comparison. Get your head out of your ass.
- dang 11y ago> Get your head out of your ass. That violates the HN guidelines badly. Please don't do this here. We ban accounts that do it repeatedly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html