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I see his work as a real testament to the power of the individual when given the ability to focus and freed from restriction to pursue their calling in life. N

I see his work as a real testament to the power of the individual when given the ability to focus and freed from restriction to pursue their calling in life. Not drawing any parallels here, but I am sure that there have been many 'Joan of Arc' and 'Moses' in history, and only a very tiny number of those received any recognition or praise. How many doubtlessly countless numbers were forgotten or plain ignored? Their lifes work and passions laid bare for all to see, only to be shuffled away when they weren't successful by others measurements. Tl;dr I see Terry as a reminder to march to your own drummer and to support others to do the same; whether they win or lose.

DanBC 11y ago
> march to your own drummer Do you think that's what people with severe mental illness are doing?
- vidarh 11y ago
  It is possible to recognise the creativity his opportunity to focus on doing his own thing has allowed him to express without intending it to downplay the challenges of his mental illness.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    Sure, but Smushman's comment isn't doing that. It's naive and ignorant feel-good bullshit.
    - vidarh 11y ago
      And how is it you know that? The comment on its own does not provide enough information to jump to that conclusion.
      - DanBC 11y ago
        > the power of the individual when given the ability to focus and freed from restriction to pursue their calling in life. Most people with severe mental illness do not describe it as something that has freed them, nor given them focus, to pursue the one thing they really want to pursue. There's a bunch of positive stuff about severe and enduring mental illness; and we need to protect people so that they can live the way they want to live; and we need to be careful to avoid the abuses of treatment that happened in the past (and still happen today); but romanticising a severe and enduring mental illness is fucking annoying. This isn't his calling, it's his delusion's calling. and he's not freed from restriction - that's a fucking idiotic thing to say about someone who lives in relative poverty with severely limited options about where he lives and who with. The near complete lack of understanding of severe mental illness, coupled with glib feel good platitudes, do real harm to many people.
        mikeash 11y ago
        I don't see that as saying that Terry is free to pursue his project because of his schizophrenia. Rather, Terry happens to be free to put a lot of time into TempleOS and the results are pretty amazing. Terry is also schizophrenic, but this is not freeing.
      - classicsnoot 11y ago
        Dan BC: I have found in my experience that the people using and applying the label 'mental illness' see it as some sort of barrier betwixt the person they are discussing and themselves. This is the 'normal' barrier. by relgating the person to this place (behind the wall as it were) a number of very large assumptions must be made, and my inclination is that some of these assumptions are pointless. once upon a time, abstraction may have been viewed as a nasty 'mental illness'. "Look at Grok. He so dumb. He tell me finger number could be more than hand plus hand. retard say dumbest things." We call people who are socially inept mentally ill because they do not fit will into the structure of society, not because they are actually broken. There is a difference between Down's and Autism.
    - Smushman 11y ago
      My comment focuses on the positive of his work and not to enter the category of personal attacks; which there is plenty of room to do so. But this is not a forum for discussing medical or psychological issues is it? It is for technical discussions. So I discussed the related I observed. My advice though to you directly though is there is more to life than casting judgements, and when it comes to personal desires I have a hard time telling someone they are wrong if they are not infringing on anyone else. You might do better to keep a more open mind to what drives people yourself.
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- Shorel 11y ago
  Too many 'normal' and 'sane' people have wasted their own life in frivolous stuff. He has built something technically impressive with his own time. I think I would prefer to be him than to be the wasteful normal one.

DanBC 11y ago

> march to your own drummer Do you think that's what people with severe mental illness are doing?

vidarh 11y ago
It is possible to recognise the creativity his opportunity to focus on doing his own thing has allowed him to express without intending it to downplay the challenges of his mental illness.
- DanBC 11y ago
  Sure, but Smushman's comment isn't doing that. It's naive and ignorant feel-good bullshit.
  - vidarh 11y ago
    And how is it you know that? The comment on its own does not provide enough information to jump to that conclusion.
    - DanBC 11y ago
      > the power of the individual when given the ability to focus and freed from restriction to pursue their calling in life. Most people with severe mental illness do not describe it as something that has freed them, nor given them focus, to pursue the one thing they really want to pursue. There's a bunch of positive stuff about severe and enduring mental illness; and we need to protect people so that they can live the way they want to live; and we need to be careful to avoid the abuses of treatment that happened in the past (and still happen today); but romanticising a severe and enduring mental illness is fucking annoying. This isn't his calling, it's his delusion's calling. and he's not freed from restriction - that's a fucking idiotic thing to say about someone who lives in relative poverty with severely limited options about where he lives and who with. The near complete lack of understanding of severe mental illness, coupled with glib feel good platitudes, do real harm to many people.
      - mikeash 11y ago
        I don't see that as saying that Terry is free to pursue his project because of his schizophrenia. Rather, Terry happens to be free to put a lot of time into TempleOS and the results are pretty amazing. Terry is also schizophrenic, but this is not freeing.
    - classicsnoot 11y ago
      Dan BC: I have found in my experience that the people using and applying the label 'mental illness' see it as some sort of barrier betwixt the person they are discussing and themselves. This is the 'normal' barrier. by relgating the person to this place (behind the wall as it were) a number of very large assumptions must be made, and my inclination is that some of these assumptions are pointless. once upon a time, abstraction may have been viewed as a nasty 'mental illness'. "Look at Grok. He so dumb. He tell me finger number could be more than hand plus hand. retard say dumbest things." We call people who are socially inept mentally ill because they do not fit will into the structure of society, not because they are actually broken. There is a difference between Down's and Autism.
  - Smushman 11y ago
    My comment focuses on the positive of his work and not to enter the category of personal attacks; which there is plenty of room to do so. But this is not a forum for discussing medical or psychological issues is it? It is for technical discussions. So I discussed the related I observed. My advice though to you directly though is there is more to life than casting judgements, and when it comes to personal desires I have a hard time telling someone they are wrong if they are not infringing on anyone else. You might do better to keep a more open mind to what drives people yourself.
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Shorel 11y ago
Too many 'normal' and 'sane' people have wasted their own life in frivolous stuff. He has built something technically impressive with his own time. I think I would prefer to be him than to be the wasteful normal one.