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You are seeing the country from your own lens. That doesn't make sense. The circumstances that surround this country are very different from they places we li
by nashashmi 11y ago
You are seeing the country from your own lens. That doesn't make sense. The circumstances that surround this country are very different from they places we live in.
> * "Saudis prefer not to grant visas to unaccompanied women"
Saudi Arabia has managed to be secure for certain conservative reasons. Unaccompanied women create too many opportunities for insecurity and the country's security forces cannot handle this.
> * "Nationals of Israel and those with evidence of visiting Israel will be denied visas"
Israel and Saudi are not exactly on talking terms. Same policies exist in Israel for those who visit muslim countries in the Middle East.
> "LGBT activities are illegal in Saudi Arabia and it is one of the least homosexual friendly countries in the world. First offenses attract prison sentences of several months to life, fines with whipping/flogging, castration, torture, vigilante killings and public execution. A second conviction invariably results in execution."
So was America for a number of years. So was China. And they will continue to be the same way for a very long time. America and China have different reasons for not being this way, and it has absolutely nothing to do with morality or social freedom.
Think of a country's laws as a reaction to the nature of the people. In the western world, there are a different set of laws for crowd control. In Saudi Arabia where illiteracy is high and schooling is decentralized, crowd control takes on a different soul. Consider Iraq and Egypt and Syria, countries that have gone through their own transformations. Dictatorship seems to have returned or is being demanded for the purpose of safety and stability.
- desdiv 11y ago>Same policies exist in Israel for those who visit muslim countries in the Middle East. I find this hard to believe. Do you happen to have a source? Israel does indeed frequently deny entry based on bigoted reasons[0][1][2], but I've never heard of people being denied because of Muslim country passport stamps. [0] http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/06/191899.htm http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/06/191899.htm [1] https://electronicintifada.net/content/us-states-should-act-against-israels-denial-entry-americans/13356 https://electronicintifada.net/content/us-states-should-act-... [2] http://gaza.usvpp.gov/border-crossings.html http://gaza.usvpp.gov/border-crossings.html]
- serge2k 11y ago> Saudi Arabia has managed to be secure for certain conservative reasons. Unaccompanied women create too many opportunities for insecurity and the country's security forces cannot handle this. BS. It's misogynistic crap. > Israel and Saudi are not exactly on talking terms. Same policies exist in Israel for those who visit muslim countries in the Middle East. Fine, don't really have a problem with that. > So was America for a number of years. It was and is wrong. America has a long way to go. They are still well ahead of Saudi Arabia. > it has absolutely nothing to do with morality or social freedom. It exactly does. Sorry, not going to treat Saudi Arabia as anything other than a backwards theocracy that hates women and violates human rights whenever. Quite frankly, it disgusts me that they are an "ally".