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> Women by far are the target. That is actually not true, see for example: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/01/the-darkest-side-of-online-harassme
by brighteyes 11y ago
> Women by far are the target.
That is actually not true, see for example:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/01/the-darkest-side-of-online-harassment-menacing-behavior/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/01/the-darkest-...
By perpetuating this false stereotype, you're doing more harm to gender equality than harassment does. Online harassment can be bad - I've suffered it myself - but at least it's fairly equal in harming everyone.
The stereotype that men are harassers and women are victims arises because there are a few famous women that have been harassed very publicly. Why have there been more famous cases of women than men, when surveys do not find a large gender difference in actual harassment? I suspect it's that very stereotype of women as victims. It's an easy narrative to fall into, as you are doing right here.
- bruceb 11y agoHow does this link prove your point? Doesn't measure the intensity nor does it go in to general atmosphere of hate. Having post after post about "fat chicks" that is not specifically aimed at you can still be incredible painful.
- brighteyes 11y agoThe very first chart shows women are not the "by far" targets of online harassment. Look at the numbers. Anecdotes like "posts about fat chicks" are not convincing. There are plenty of anecdotes going both ways.
- DanBC 11y agoCan I just check: Are you saying "this happens to everyone, so it's okay"? Or "this happens to everyone, and it's not okay"? If it's the latter I agree. A bunch of people working in open source receive death threats and considerable levels of harassment. That kind of stuff needs to stop, no matter who it's aimed at.
- brighteyes 11y agoOf course it's not ok - I said it was bad, and that I suffered from it myself. All I am saying is that gendering this issue, when the data shows it is actually something not limited or even focused on one gender, is incorrect, unhelpful, and sexist.
- DanBC 11y ago> Of course it's not ok You think "of course", I think "of course", but there are people in this thread saying it's not a problem.
- pkinsky 11y agoI know, think about the kind of fedora wearing, basement dwelling neckbeard loser that makes posts attacking entire genders! /sarcasm
- brighteyes 11y agoAdding a "/sarcasm" after hurtful words doesn't make it ok.
- pkinsky 11y agoSorry, I'm trying to point out that gendered harassment targeting men is very common online. I've edited my post for clarity.
- brighteyes 11y agoI understand, but the risk is that the sarcasm you used is in fact used online in a hurtful way. It can mean either what you did, or be used to intentionally ridicule people.