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I love the 'But Uber is illegal!' argument. A government protected industry is forced to face real competition after years of ignoring their customers needs. Bo

by norikki 11y ago

I love the 'But Uber is illegal!' argument. A government protected industry is forced to face real competition after years of ignoring their customers needs. Boo Hoo.

anarazel 11y ago
Maybe I've a rather european perspective on this: But most of the arguments around Uber's services not being entirely legal here are around the kind of driver's license and such. At least in Germany, and I'm fairly certain it's the same in a couple neigbhouring countries, there's two things to driving a cab in a city: 1) Special kind of driver's permit that allows you to transport passengers in a commercial setting. That includes a background check, medical, and some lower limits how many traffic infractions you can have than a normal driver's license 2) A permit to drive a cab in a specific city/area. To me requiring a special kind of driver's license to transport passengers makes a fair amount of sense iff it's reasonably easy to get. Uber doesn't require that for UberX, which is the main point of conflict in many of the trials Uber lost over here.
- douche 11y ago
  At least in the U.S. states that I've lived in, drivers licenses are segmented by the type of vehicle that you are allowed to drive, rather than the purpose of driving it. So, for instance, in Maine, there are 3 main tiers: Class A license - certified to drive tractor-trailer trucks. Class B license - certification to drive non-tractor trailer multi-axle vehicles; kind of an amorphous collection, but think buses, large commercial panel trucks, dump-trucks, highway plow trucks, etc. Class C license - any kind of normal passenger automobile. What I find interesting about Uber, and the backlash against it, is that it is largely just a scaling of under-the-table, unregulated behavior people have always indulged in. What, really, is the difference between calling up your circle of friends and acquaintances, asking for a lift somewhere, and throwing them some cash for gas money and their time, versus using Uber? They are evil because they enable you to search a wider network then just your personal circle? Or because they take a cut for providing a reliable, safe, centralized payment service? Or because they have enabled a market that competes with a rent-capturing incumbent, and the product they provide is cheaper, more convenient, and higher quality?

by norikki 11y ago

I love the 'But Uber is illegal!' argument. A government protected industry is forced to face real competition after years of ignoring their customers needs. Boo Hoo.

anarazel 11y ago

Maybe I've a rather european perspective on this: But most of the arguments around Uber's services not being entirely legal here are around the kind of driver's license and such. At least in Germany, and I'm fairly certain it's the same in a couple neigbhouring countries, there's two things to driving a cab in a city: 1) Special kind of driver's permit that allows you to transport passengers in a commercial setting. That includes a background check, medical, and some lower limits how many traffic infractions you can have than a normal driver's license 2) A permit to drive a cab in a specific city/area. To me requiring a special kind of driver's license to transport passengers makes a fair amount of sense iff it's reasonably easy to get. Uber doesn't require that for UberX, which is the main point of conflict in many of the trials Uber lost over here.

douche 11y ago
At least in the U.S. states that I've lived in, drivers licenses are segmented by the type of vehicle that you are allowed to drive, rather than the purpose of driving it. So, for instance, in Maine, there are 3 main tiers: Class A license - certified to drive tractor-trailer trucks. Class B license - certification to drive non-tractor trailer multi-axle vehicles; kind of an amorphous collection, but think buses, large commercial panel trucks, dump-trucks, highway plow trucks, etc. Class C license - any kind of normal passenger automobile. What I find interesting about Uber, and the backlash against it, is that it is largely just a scaling of under-the-table, unregulated behavior people have always indulged in. What, really, is the difference between calling up your circle of friends and acquaintances, asking for a lift somewhere, and throwing them some cash for gas money and their time, versus using Uber? They are evil because they enable you to search a wider network then just your personal circle? Or because they take a cut for providing a reliable, safe, centralized payment service? Or because they have enabled a market that competes with a rent-capturing incumbent, and the product they provide is cheaper, more convenient, and higher quality?