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They want to make abortion illegal, a major point of most GOP platforms. So I guess they do believe they have the authority to have a certain amount of control

by comrh 11y ago

They want to make abortion illegal, a major point of most GOP platforms. So I guess they do believe they have the authority to have a certain amount of control of women's bodies. Certainly it is also a simple view to assume just because something is legal, there is no aspect of control. Funding, access, privacy, there are tons things to consider outside of just if it is legal. I never said GOP = patriarchy. Just that there is a "systematic, coordinated campaign against women's reproductive rights" and that certainly isn't a fringe statement. This campaign is indicative of one of the OP's definitions: "interwoven social structures that promulgate certain ideologies, doctrines, and social customs."

exstudent2 11y ago
The op said "cabal of men". The GOP is presumably 50/50 male/female. You're really stretching the original comment to try to make it less extreme.
- comrh 11y ago
  You're splitting hairs to ignore my point. There are also only three women on the RNC leadership and only 10% of the GOP in Congress is female [1] so I don't know where you got 50/50. There is even a long wikipedia article detailing the "War on Women"[2]. Quotes by Obama and the DNC follow similar rhetoric. You can keep calling it "extreme" but it is a very common view. A group, the large majority of are male, are trying to limit what a women can do with her body. The same thing the OP said. 1: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/upshot/gop-women-in-congress-why-so-few.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/upshot/gop-women-in-congre... 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > The GOP is presumably 50/50 male/female. While I can't find good figures on male/female split in the GOP, the fact that the US has overall a slightly lower than 1:1 male/female ratio [0] and the fact that women are substantially more likely to identify with the Democratic Party than the Republican while (including leanings of independents in both cases) men are about equally likely to identify as Republican as Democratic, suggests that that presumption would be wrong. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio [1] http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/ http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-part...

by comrh 11y ago

exstudent2 11y ago

The op said "cabal of men". The GOP is presumably 50/50 male/female. You're really stretching the original comment to try to make it less extreme.

comrh 11y ago
You're splitting hairs to ignore my point. There are also only three women on the RNC leadership and only 10% of the GOP in Congress is female [1] so I don't know where you got 50/50. There is even a long wikipedia article detailing the "War on Women"[2]. Quotes by Obama and the DNC follow similar rhetoric. You can keep calling it "extreme" but it is a very common view. A group, the large majority of are male, are trying to limit what a women can do with her body. The same thing the OP said. 1: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/upshot/gop-women-in-congress-why-so-few.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/upshot/gop-women-in-congre... 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women
dragonwriter 11y ago
> The GOP is presumably 50/50 male/female. While I can't find good figures on male/female split in the GOP, the fact that the US has overall a slightly lower than 1:1 male/female ratio [0] and the fact that women are substantially more likely to identify with the Democratic Party than the Republican while (including leanings of independents in both cases) men are about equally likely to identify as Republican as Democratic, suggests that that presumption would be wrong. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio [1] http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/ http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-part...