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Patriarchy is a gendered term that implies men are in control. Traditional gender roles are reinforced by men AND women. If traditional gender roles included t
by exstudent2 11y ago
Patriarchy is a gendered term that implies men are in control. Traditional gender roles are reinforced by men AND women.
If traditional gender roles included things like women can't vote or own property, then I could see making a case for calling that patriarchy. In the west there is no such thing though.
- chongli 11y agoPatriarchy is a gendered term that implies men are in control It implies that, given its etymology, but that is not how it is defined in the literature. Tons of idiomatic words and phrases operate that way in our culture. If I were to tell you "break a leg" as you were heading out onto a theatre stage, would you imply maliciousness or benign well-wishing on my part?
- exstudent2 11y agoI'm going by the definition in the dictionary. From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriarchy http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/patriarchy Full Definition of PATRIARCHY social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the clan or family, the legal dependence of wives and children, and the reckoning of descent and inheritance in the male line; broadly : control by men of a disproportionately large share of power
- RodericDay 11y agoDon't families in Western societies outside of, like, Quebec, "reckon descent and inheritance in the male line", via the vast majority of children adopting the surname of the father and not the mother?
- exstudent2 11y agoThey "reckon descent" by choice since it's legal to use any surname you want. Definitely not inheritance though. Children of both genders are receiving their inheritance.
- chongli 11y agoYou keep invoking the word "legal" as if it has any relevance in this discussion at all; it doesn't. Patriarchy is a structure largely enforced through social mores, not laws (though there are lots of exceptions, obviously).
- exstudent2 11y agoI continue to use the dictionary definition. Without legal enforcement there is no patriarchy.
- RodericDay 11y agolmao. I guess there's no institutional racism, or homophobia, either?
- exstudent2 11y agoMisogyny is the word you're looking for. That exists, patriarchy doesn't. Just like slavery is illegal but racism exists, gay marriage is legal but homophobia exists, there is no patriarchy but misogyny exists.
- kaybe 11y agoSlavery still exists though, even though it is illegal (not saying anything about western patriarchy).
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago>Patriarchy is a gendered term that implies men are in control. It doesn't even do that. It is an equivalent of 'God did it'. Men get better treatment: Sexism by the patriarchy. Whoops, findings were wrong, women are actually getting better treatment: Reverse sexism by the patriarchy. It is like talking with a creationist.