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I think there's a number of interpretations of the results: 1. Women suffer more "stress and anxiety", "difficult tradeoffs", "time constraints", "burden of re
by caylus 11y ago
I think there's a number of interpretations of the results:
1. Women suffer more "stress and anxiety", "difficult tradeoffs", "time constraints", "burden of responsibility" and "conflict with their life goals" (direct quotes from article) in the same jobs as men due to discrimination
2. Women suffer more of the above, but due to biological differences. IOW the same situations result in more stress for women than for men.
3. Women and men suffer the same amount of these but assign them higher weight in their decision-making process. IOW the same amount of stress is enough to dissuade a woman, but not a man, from taking a position, due to different life priorities.
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- toomuchtodo 11y ago> IOW the same amount of stress is enough to dissuade a woman, but not a man, from taking a position, due to different life priorities. As a male, I'm willing to take on much more stress if the position is a position conveying substantial power, as that increases my standing when being selected by partners. Its a hard problem to solve to put everyone on equal footing when genders (in the aggregate) seem to have different life goals (individuals are different then aggregate numbers of course).
- gearoidoc 11y ago"...increases my standing when being selected by partners." What type of partners?
- toomuchtodo 11y ago> What type of partners? Female partners seeking a relationship or sexual encounter. I'm 32, male, do well financially as well as career wise (I'm highly in demand). I still want to be desirable to the opposite sex. I'm sure its part biology, part psychology.
- jazzyk 11y agoTotally normal. Humans are born with it - it is part of the evolutionary process.
- gearoidoc 11y agoGolddiggers are probably the only ones who are influenced by your job title but whatever floats your boat.
- toomuchtodo 11y agoI wouldn't consider doctors, lawyers, and other professionals "golddiggers". Some people want to date "on their level" I've been told.
- gearoidoc 11y agoWell they're not mutually exclusive but I can kind of see where you're coming from. I think you're setting yourself up to miss out on a lot if you're only interested in dating someone who makes X dollars a year though.
- tomp 11y agoIt's a well-researched fact that women are reluctant to "date down" (in terms of social standing, education, professional achievement and wealth), whereas men don't care - they (we) are mostly interested in how attractive a woman is.
- Mz 11y agoI am a woman. I am willing to take on a great deal of stress. Hell, just raising my special needs kids while supporting my husband's military career was a lot of stress. My subjective experience of corporate life was not that work was too stressful for me or caused conflict with my parenting obligations, but that I frequently faced what amounted to sexual harassment from men in positions of power above me. When you are looking for a promotion, you are probably not dealing with people who only see you as a piece of ass. For me, this was the single biggest thing I was aware of as an obstacle to progression and it was the single most stressful work-related issue I had to deal with. I processed accident claims for a living. Many of my coworkers found it stressful to read the medical and police reports that were part and parcel of the job 8 hours a day. I rarely was bothered by that. Once in a great while something particularly gruesome would disturb me. But the degree to which I felt I had to walk on eggshells to simultaneously avoid offending some man with a hard-on for me AND avoid anything that could be interpreted as encouragement of his interest was a tightrope walk I was happy to give up when I left my corporate job. I don't have time to read the full report we are discussing, but what little I did read of it makes me wonder at the details of what causes other women to feel that it is all just too stressful. I get the impression, both from what I read of the article and some of the comments here, that the expectation of stress is sort of hand-wavy as to what the exact causes were. I know they are legion, but now that my kids are adults and I am divorced (etc) and I have arranged my life such that work can be the most important thing I focus on, I still find it challenging to cope with the fact that so many men see me as just a skirt. When a man sees me that way, it matters little whether he is hoping to get into my panties or not, he will take me seriously as a professional and he will never be a stepping stone to better things for me. He will either be a closed door because he doesn't take me seriously or he will be an even bigger obstacle and source of pain, while I try to neutralize the threat his unwanted sexual interest represents for me. This is something you likely almost never face as a man in the world of work.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago> This is something you likely almost never face as a man in the world of work. I agree. Stress is something each person must decide how much they're willing to tolerate. Harassment of any sort (sexual or otherwise) should never be tolerated. I can't truly appreciate the difficulty of being a woman attempting to climb the corporate ladder (just because I'll never have the experience, being a male). I can argue that society as a whole should be working actively to prevent the sort of behavior you described. Shifting an entire generation's attitude takes time unfortunately.