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The biggest problem of this is that it only works on Google's ads, but there are far more obnoxious ads that will result in the user wanting and installing an a

by devit 11y ago

The biggest problem of this is that it only works on Google's ads, but there are far more obnoxious ads that will result in the user wanting and installing an adblocker anyway, and then why bother with Contributor?

johnward 11y ago
Most users tend to complain about flying, pop ups, auto playing audio/video. Google does none of that. So is there a real benefit here?
- malchow 11y ago
  Some would say that there are a number of auto-playing audio and app store redirect ads on Doubleclick AdExchange.
  - wlesieutre 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word#/media/File:Weasel_words.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word#/media/File:Weasel... Either they do or they don't. A quick google didn't turn anything up, but does someone have a reputable source?
    - malchow 11y ago
      I was trying to be polite, not weasly. https://blog.malwarebytes.org/malvertising-2/2014/09/googles-doubleclick-ad-network-abused-once-again-in-malvertising-attacks/ https://blog.malwarebytes.org/malvertising-2/2014/09/googles... http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/247982/google-doubleclick-network-hit-with-more-malvertis.html http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/247982/google-... http://www.csoonline.com/article/2924309/malware-cybercrime/advertisers-need-to-start-monitoring-ad-security.html http://www.csoonline.com/article/2924309/malware-cybercrime/... http://readwrite.com/2014/05/15/app-redirects-mobile-spam-ads http://readwrite.com/2014/05/15/app-redirects-mobile-spam-ad...
      - wlesieutre 11y ago
        Ah sorry, I misread your tone then. As far as I'm concerned, no need to be polite with Doubleclick. If they're serving malware, they can fuck right off.
  - johnward 11y ago
    I'm not sure if the Doubleclick AdExchange allows that but sometimes it can look like it's coming from Adsense or Doubleclick AdExchange but the ad is actually served from Doubleclick For Publishers. In that latter case the publisher decides what is acceptable.
  - drdeca 11y ago
    I think the tvtropes forum used AdWords (? Not sure) and I certainly saw ads there which redirected to open the app store (on android). I'm not certain, but I believe the ad network being used was associated with Google. (Not that the ads were officially allowed, I think I read things on a Google support forum which indicated that they hadn't finished blocking those ads yet, or blocking them again when they were created again. Still, I think an ad agency has a responsibility to proactively(?) ensure that they do not serve any malicious (in the security sense) ads.)
- ksk 11y ago
  > Google does none of that. I have seen several adsense ads that auto-play. But it could be that they're violating Google's policies. I tried looking for a policy document, but this is all I could find. https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/176108?hl=en https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/176108?hl=en
  - johnward 11y ago
    I saw a few that expanded to take over the screen if you hover over them for like 5 seconds but they gave you a warning. I haven't seen autoplay though. Are you certain they were adsense? Sometimes ads can appear to be adsense because they are served via DoubleClick For Publishers ( https://www.doubleclickbygoogle.com/solutions/revenue-management/dfp/ https://www.doubleclickbygoogle.com/solutions/revenue-manage... ). The site controls the approval of those ads. Google won't approve an as that violates the policies unless it somehow slips by.
    - ksk 11y ago
      Its not something that happens very often, but I've seen it mostly on websites that are usually low quality/aggregation websites. Here's one such instance. http://sendvid.com/lhstkqtl http://sendvid.com/lhstkqtl
- jakobegger 11y ago
  Google does have the big green download button type ads (this kind of ad made me decide to install an adblocker)
  - johnward 11y ago
    Those are really the only ones I can think of that bother me but it's the sites placement that is what makes it a terrible UX. They place all those ads around the actual download button. You would think you could get banned for trying to force a click like that.
    - jakobegger 11y ago
      I wouldn't put the blame on the site owners exclusively. Yes, they are responsible for location on the page. But Google puts a big green button labelled "download" on the page in the first place; that button would be confusing anywhere on the page. And obviously, these ads only show up on download pages, not on other types of pages. There's no excuse: the site operator, the ad network, and the ad buyer all collaborate to deceive the user. Google could easily stop this practice, but they don't. "Do no evil, unless it affects the bottom line".
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  On mobile, I get exactly these kind of ads in-app. Flashing yellow and red, "Scan your phone", "Speed your phone", "Phone virus?!" and crap like that. Always links direct to appstore for some home screen or launcher that requires every permission. I reported them for a week or so then gave up.
  - johnward 11y ago
    I don't think those are being served by Google which is what the parent was referring to.
jhgg 11y ago
Unblock ads served from google, keep the rest blocked. Eventually websites will just have to use google as their ad platform if they want to receive revenue in a mostly ad-blocked world. It's pretty brilliant really.

by devit 11y ago

johnward 11y ago

Most users tend to complain about flying, pop ups, auto playing audio/video. Google does none of that. So is there a real benefit here?

malchow 11y ago
Some would say that there are a number of auto-playing audio and app store redirect ads on Doubleclick AdExchange.
- wlesieutre 11y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word#/media/File:Weasel_words.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word#/media/File:Weasel... Either they do or they don't. A quick google didn't turn anything up, but does someone have a reputable source?
  - malchow 11y ago
    I was trying to be polite, not weasly. https://blog.malwarebytes.org/malvertising-2/2014/09/googles-doubleclick-ad-network-abused-once-again-in-malvertising-attacks/ https://blog.malwarebytes.org/malvertising-2/2014/09/googles... http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/247982/google-doubleclick-network-hit-with-more-malvertis.html http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/247982/google-... http://www.csoonline.com/article/2924309/malware-cybercrime/advertisers-need-to-start-monitoring-ad-security.html http://www.csoonline.com/article/2924309/malware-cybercrime/... http://readwrite.com/2014/05/15/app-redirects-mobile-spam-ads http://readwrite.com/2014/05/15/app-redirects-mobile-spam-ad...
    - wlesieutre 11y ago
      Ah sorry, I misread your tone then. As far as I'm concerned, no need to be polite with Doubleclick. If they're serving malware, they can fuck right off.
- johnward 11y ago
  I'm not sure if the Doubleclick AdExchange allows that but sometimes it can look like it's coming from Adsense or Doubleclick AdExchange but the ad is actually served from Doubleclick For Publishers. In that latter case the publisher decides what is acceptable.
- drdeca 11y ago
  I think the tvtropes forum used AdWords (? Not sure) and I certainly saw ads there which redirected to open the app store (on android). I'm not certain, but I believe the ad network being used was associated with Google. (Not that the ads were officially allowed, I think I read things on a Google support forum which indicated that they hadn't finished blocking those ads yet, or blocking them again when they were created again. Still, I think an ad agency has a responsibility to proactively(?) ensure that they do not serve any malicious (in the security sense) ads.)
ksk 11y ago
> Google does none of that. I have seen several adsense ads that auto-play. But it could be that they're violating Google's policies. I tried looking for a policy document, but this is all I could find. https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/176108?hl=en https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/176108?hl=en
- johnward 11y ago
  I saw a few that expanded to take over the screen if you hover over them for like 5 seconds but they gave you a warning. I haven't seen autoplay though. Are you certain they were adsense? Sometimes ads can appear to be adsense because they are served via DoubleClick For Publishers ( https://www.doubleclickbygoogle.com/solutions/revenue-management/dfp/ https://www.doubleclickbygoogle.com/solutions/revenue-manage... ). The site controls the approval of those ads. Google won't approve an as that violates the policies unless it somehow slips by.
  - ksk 11y ago
    Its not something that happens very often, but I've seen it mostly on websites that are usually low quality/aggregation websites. Here's one such instance. http://sendvid.com/lhstkqtl http://sendvid.com/lhstkqtl
jakobegger 11y ago
Google does have the big green download button type ads (this kind of ad made me decide to install an adblocker)
- johnward 11y ago
  Those are really the only ones I can think of that bother me but it's the sites placement that is what makes it a terrible UX. They place all those ads around the actual download button. You would think you could get banned for trying to force a click like that.
  - jakobegger 11y ago
    I wouldn't put the blame on the site owners exclusively. Yes, they are responsible for location on the page. But Google puts a big green button labelled "download" on the page in the first place; that button would be confusing anywhere on the page. And obviously, these ads only show up on download pages, not on other types of pages. There's no excuse: the site operator, the ad network, and the ad buyer all collaborate to deceive the user. Google could easily stop this practice, but they don't. "Do no evil, unless it affects the bottom line".
MichaelGG 11y ago
On mobile, I get exactly these kind of ads in-app. Flashing yellow and red, "Scan your phone", "Speed your phone", "Phone virus?!" and crap like that. Always links direct to appstore for some home screen or launcher that requires every permission. I reported them for a week or so then gave up.
- johnward 11y ago
  I don't think those are being served by Google which is what the parent was referring to.

jhgg 11y ago

Unblock ads served from google, keep the rest blocked. Eventually websites will just have to use google as their ad platform if they want to receive revenue in a mostly ad-blocked world. It's pretty brilliant really.