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> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more c

> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more complex than 4chan. Some of the larger subreddits see more pageviews than the entirety of 4chan. Moving beyond that, moderators on 4chan are completely anonymous unless they choose to be known. This isn't the case with reddit. Moderators often have to have a long and tenured account history or else they don't really have a shot at being added onto a mod team in the first place. Very few subreddits, and no large ones, will add someone to their team without a history. This is important because with a history, you open yourself up to attacks. If you do something unpopular, you will get witch-hunted by reddit's masses. I speak from personal experience. People will call your house, your loved ones, send pizzas or worse. You're literally walking on eggshells 24/7, 365 days of the year. And then even if you do everything right, if someone has it out for you, it doesn't matter. They'll still figure out who you are and harass you. It's an added dynamic that just doesn't exist with moderation on 4chan. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit (a large default, like /r/Pics, /r/Funny, /r/Worldnews, etc) is probably the toughest moderating job on the internet right now. And what makes it tough are the millions upon millions of users. On 4chan, you're literally a janitor. On reddit, you're a janitor and you're also responsible for community building and everything that comes along with that. It's your community and if you don't build it, nobody will come.

comrh 11y ago
> This is important because with a history, you open yourself up to attacks. Which is why I set up a script a few months ago to delete my account history every month. The amount of doxing I saw on reddit made me nervous.
- ossreality 11y ago
  There's a userscript for this, it just needs a tweak to be active on HTTPS pages.
- flashman 11y ago
  This has limited utility since people are archiving comments in real time and uploading them to Big Query https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9869871 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9869871 Here's the realtime comments feed - add .xml, .json or .rss to change the format: https://www.reddit.com/comments https://www.reddit.com/comments
- letstryagain 11y ago
  I change my username every few months
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janny_throwaway 11y ago
>On 4chan, you're literally a janitor. On reddit, you're a janitor and you're also responsible for community building and everything that comes along with that. It's your community and if you don't build it, nobody will come. That's a fair point. I was mostly addressing the comment about "barrier to entry," since the barrier to entry on 4chan is essentially nil. Without anything resembling an account history, there's a huge amount of impersonation, which makes for a challenging social dynamic. > If you do something unpopular, you will get witch-hunted by reddit's masses Interestingly, my janitor handle was leaked at one point, and despite it being just a few hops away from my real identity, I never experienced any harassment. I can only assume it's because I wasn't much of a target; 4chan doesn't tell you who was responsible for your ban, so only moot and a few of the more outspoken mods attracted the attention of the mob.
marincounty 11y ago
Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money? I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes? They build it, and people came. People opened their mouths, and confirmed all doubt?
- janny_throwaway 11y ago
  They do it for free :^)
- ljk 11y ago
  > I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. Probably not a good idea considering the drama and mod abuse that's happened in the past...
- eertami 11y ago
  >Does Reddit pay you for moderation? There are enough people that see moderating a subreddit as a source of power that they simply don't have to, new mods would always be available for free. >It's not like they don't have throw around money? Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value.
  - mahouse 11y ago
    >Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value. I don't see the correlation.
- hcon 11y ago
  Ending statements with question marks doesn't make them less committal, so just end them with periods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNIBV87wV4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNIBV87wV4
- deftnerd 11y ago
pjc50 11y ago
They'll still figure out who you are and harass you. It's an added dynamic that just doesn't exist with moderation on 4chan No, 4chan just generates and targets harassment against other identifiable people instead, including those not on 4chan, and the moderators are complicit in this harassment by not removing threads organizing it.

comrh 11y ago

> This is important because with a history, you open yourself up to attacks. Which is why I set up a script a few months ago to delete my account history every month. The amount of doxing I saw on reddit made me nervous.

ossreality 11y ago
There's a userscript for this, it just needs a tweak to be active on HTTPS pages.
flashman 11y ago
This has limited utility since people are archiving comments in real time and uploading them to Big Query https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9869871 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9869871 Here's the realtime comments feed - add .xml, .json or .rss to change the format: https://www.reddit.com/comments https://www.reddit.com/comments
letstryagain 11y ago
I change my username every few months
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janny_throwaway 11y ago

>On 4chan, you're literally a janitor. On reddit, you're a janitor and you're also responsible for community building and everything that comes along with that. It's your community and if you don't build it, nobody will come. That's a fair point. I was mostly addressing the comment about "barrier to entry," since the barrier to entry on 4chan is essentially nil. Without anything resembling an account history, there's a huge amount of impersonation, which makes for a challenging social dynamic. > If you do something unpopular, you will get witch-hunted by reddit's masses Interestingly, my janitor handle was leaked at one point, and despite it being just a few hops away from my real identity, I never experienced any harassment. I can only assume it's because I wasn't much of a target; 4chan doesn't tell you who was responsible for your ban, so only moot and a few of the more outspoken mods attracted the attention of the mob.

marincounty 11y ago

Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money? I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes? They build it, and people came. People opened their mouths, and confirmed all doubt?

janny_throwaway 11y ago
They do it for free :^)
ljk 11y ago
> I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. Probably not a good idea considering the drama and mod abuse that's happened in the past...
eertami 11y ago
>Does Reddit pay you for moderation? There are enough people that see moderating a subreddit as a source of power that they simply don't have to, new mods would always be available for free. >It's not like they don't have throw around money? Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value.
- mahouse 11y ago
  >Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value. I don't see the correlation.
hcon 11y ago
Ending statements with question marks doesn't make them less committal, so just end them with periods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNIBV87wV4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNIBV87wV4
deftnerd 11y ago

pjc50 11y ago

They'll still figure out who you are and harass you. It's an added dynamic that just doesn't exist with moderation on 4chan No, 4chan just generates and targets harassment against other identifiable people instead, including those not on 4chan, and the moderators are complicit in this harassment by not removing threads organizing it.