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GM killed more than 100 people with a known defective ignition switch. Volkswagen killed ... the air. Guess which company will get the greater penalty from the

by vaadu 11y ago

GM killed more than 100 people with a known defective ignition switch. Volkswagen killed ... the air. Guess which company will get the greater penalty from the US government? BTW, GM spends significantly more on lobbying and campaign contributions to political candidates. Source: OpenSecrets <a href="https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&cycle=A">Volkswagen</a> https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000042113&a... and <a href="https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000155&cycle=A">GM</a> https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000155&a...

usaphp 11y ago
More info on this GM matter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_General_Motors_recall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_General_Motors_recall
jeromeflipo 11y ago
Seriously? Just in France, diesel emissions kill 42,000 persons every year [0]. In California, they kill at 1,500 to 2,400 people a year [1]. It might be possible that these estimations rely on measurements communicated by the manufacturers (i.e underestimated by 40x)! [0] http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-morts-prematurees-chaque-annee-en-france_1841726_1651302.html http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-... [1] http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm
- happyscrappy 11y ago
  European cities have much worse air pollution than American ones because they went with diesels instead of hybrids in an attempt to be more green and partly because of German auto lobbying.
oldmanjay 11y ago
There are 7+ billion people sharing that air. It's interesting that you'd consider 100 lives worth more than a resource we all require to exist, but not really a stance I can consider agreeable.
korisnik 11y ago
The emissions would have led to premature deaths of far more than 100 people.
epistasis 11y ago
There are many differences in this situation, not the least of which that there's a difference between an engineering flaw, and engineering the flaw intentionally.

by vaadu 11y ago

usaphp 11y ago

More info on this GM matter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_General_Motors_recall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_General_Motors_recall

jeromeflipo 11y ago

Seriously? Just in France, diesel emissions kill 42,000 persons every year [0]. In California, they kill at 1,500 to 2,400 people a year [1]. It might be possible that these estimations rely on measurements communicated by the manufacturers (i.e underestimated by 40x)! [0] http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-morts-prematurees-chaque-annee-en-france_1841726_1651302.html http://www.lemonde.fr/sante/article/2013/03/02/diesel-42000-... [1] http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm

happyscrappy 11y ago
European cities have much worse air pollution than American ones because they went with diesels instead of hybrids in an attempt to be more green and partly because of German auto lobbying.

oldmanjay 11y ago

There are 7+ billion people sharing that air. It's interesting that you'd consider 100 lives worth more than a resource we all require to exist, but not really a stance I can consider agreeable.

korisnik 11y ago

The emissions would have led to premature deaths of far more than 100 people.

epistasis 11y ago

There are many differences in this situation, not the least of which that there's a difference between an engineering flaw, and engineering the flaw intentionally.