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Valid criticisms of Angular include that it gives you enough rope to hang yourself, that the documentation/tutorials teach you to code Angular in a bad way (abu

Valid criticisms of Angular include that it gives you enough rope to hang yourself, that the documentation/tutorials teach you to code Angular in a bad way (abuse the $scope object, etc.) in the interest of making it "easy" and that the terminology and symbols used can be simplified. However, once you learn to avoid Angular's pitfalls, it's a very powerful tool for creating large apps that do not collapse under their own weight. To illustrate, how often do experienced Angular devs make $scope inheritance errors? If you are, you're not using controllerAs syntax and are coding sloppily. No framework can save you from sloppy coding.

bphogan 11y ago
Yours is the third post I see that amounts to "you're doing it wrong." But if the docs are bad, and there are pitfalls that experienced Angular devs know to avoid, how can we distill that down into common knowledge that beginners can avoid? Can you recommend a book or resource that does that?
- rbalicki 11y ago
  Off the top of my head, I can recommend: * ng-newsletter * bennadal.com (fairly advanced, and sometimes unorthodox) * I found the egghead.io videos very helpful when I was starting * John Papa's angular style guide If I recall correctly, most of the other resources I've relied on were strewn about the web, and not at any one particular website.
spmurrayzzz 11y ago
One of the trends I've seen in my own hiring is that many Angular devs lack a solid understanding of fundamental JavaScript (closures, prototypes, functional programming, DOM API, async patterns, et al). This may be a function of how much the framework is able to abstract away from the user. This dearth can lead to lots of code smells, bugs, antipatterns, and other grenades that can present significant problems at scale no matter what framework you choose to go with. So if it's true that many Angular apps have problems at scale — one hypothesis would be that it may be a reflection of the selection bias of those who choose to use the framework. Which is not to say that advanced JS people aren't using the framework (they clearly are) but anecdotally, upwards of 90% of the Angular-based devs I've interviewed or interacted with personally lack an understanding of many of the aforementioned JS fundamentals.
- rbalicki 11y ago
  Perhaps the scaling problems are also because JS only became a "real" language in the past few years. Beforehand, there wasn't much need for coherent app structure because large apps were impractical.

bphogan 11y ago

Yours is the third post I see that amounts to "you're doing it wrong." But if the docs are bad, and there are pitfalls that experienced Angular devs know to avoid, how can we distill that down into common knowledge that beginners can avoid? Can you recommend a book or resource that does that?

rbalicki 11y ago
Off the top of my head, I can recommend: * ng-newsletter * bennadal.com (fairly advanced, and sometimes unorthodox) * I found the egghead.io videos very helpful when I was starting * John Papa's angular style guide If I recall correctly, most of the other resources I've relied on were strewn about the web, and not at any one particular website.

spmurrayzzz 11y ago

One of the trends I've seen in my own hiring is that many Angular devs lack a solid understanding of fundamental JavaScript (closures, prototypes, functional programming, DOM API, async patterns, et al). This may be a function of how much the framework is able to abstract away from the user. This dearth can lead to lots of code smells, bugs, antipatterns, and other grenades that can present significant problems at scale no matter what framework you choose to go with. So if it's true that many Angular apps have problems at scale — one hypothesis would be that it may be a reflection of the selection bias of those who choose to use the framework. Which is not to say that advanced JS people aren't using the framework (they clearly are) but anecdotally, upwards of 90% of the Angular-based devs I've interviewed or interacted with personally lack an understanding of many of the aforementioned JS fundamentals.

rbalicki 11y ago
Perhaps the scaling problems are also because JS only became a "real" language in the past few years. Beforehand, there wasn't much need for coherent app structure because large apps were impractical.