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I'm sure this will work brilliantly, considering that no one who needs your money there has a bank account or credit card. Cash also won't work due to the tiny

by keyme 11y ago

I'm sure this will work brilliantly, considering that no one who needs your money there has a bank account or credit card. Cash also won't work due to the tiny problem of all the warlords and corrupt government/police/military/paramilitary taking all this money away by force. The only way to make a shit place better for people, is if some rich guy finds an investment opportunity there, that as a side effect, might directly benefit workers. Spoon feeding people, in the long run, does nothing good. No matter how much money you have to donate (it's finite).

lhc- 11y ago
So, the only way to improve the world is to wait for rich people to exploit something and try to pick up the scraps? I don't think I can agree with that one.
vlehto 11y ago
>bank account or credit card Cash has been invented. They also don't have mail addresses but still some people suggest sending food. I supposed a way to give aid. No matter what way you choose the warlords and corrupt governments are going to be huge problem. The best way to help so far has been private investing. But it doesn't matter if the investor is single rich guy or bunch of average westerners. That's how stock works. But the warlords are again a problem. During the past 50 years, western "help" has done probably more harm than good. But that doesn't mean we are unable to ever do any good. As far as I understand, that UBI idea has been only once for limited time, and it looked like it could be a success. It would be great if we could incentivize the warlords to behave. We should start from a country that's relatively safe and where the locals can anonymously report if they got to keep the money. Despite such country not being the absolutely poorest one. This should turn out for the best once more restless countries figure out they could be collecting fat taxes from the imported goods. If they just settle down.
- phaer 11y ago
  > We should start from a country that's relatively safe and where the locals can anonymously report if they got to keep the money. Successful examples include Otjivero - Omitara, Namibia[1] and Madhya Pradesh, India[2] [1]: http://www.bignam.org/BIG_pilot.html http://www.bignam.org/BIG_pilot.html [2]: http://www.guystanding.com/files/documents/Basic_Income_Pilots_in_India_note_for_inaugural.pdf http://www.guystanding.com/files/documents/Basic_Income_Pilo...

by keyme 11y ago

lhc- 11y ago

So, the only way to improve the world is to wait for rich people to exploit something and try to pick up the scraps? I don't think I can agree with that one.

vlehto 11y ago

>bank account or credit card Cash has been invented. They also don't have mail addresses but still some people suggest sending food. I supposed a way to give aid. No matter what way you choose the warlords and corrupt governments are going to be huge problem. The best way to help so far has been private investing. But it doesn't matter if the investor is single rich guy or bunch of average westerners. That's how stock works. But the warlords are again a problem. During the past 50 years, western "help" has done probably more harm than good. But that doesn't mean we are unable to ever do any good. As far as I understand, that UBI idea has been only once for limited time, and it looked like it could be a success. It would be great if we could incentivize the warlords to behave. We should start from a country that's relatively safe and where the locals can anonymously report if they got to keep the money. Despite such country not being the absolutely poorest one. This should turn out for the best once more restless countries figure out they could be collecting fat taxes from the imported goods. If they just settle down.

phaer 11y ago
> We should start from a country that's relatively safe and where the locals can anonymously report if they got to keep the money. Successful examples include Otjivero - Omitara, Namibia[1] and Madhya Pradesh, India[2] [1]: http://www.bignam.org/BIG_pilot.html http://www.bignam.org/BIG_pilot.html [2]: http://www.guystanding.com/files/documents/Basic_Income_Pilots_in_India_note_for_inaugural.pdf http://www.guystanding.com/files/documents/Basic_Income_Pilo...