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Honestly, I would not trust any pre-installed OS, no matter the manufacturer. They pretty much all load crapware. The case where lenovo were using a UEFI dropp

Honestly, I would not trust any pre-installed OS, no matter the manufacturer. They pretty much all load crapware. The case where lenovo were using a UEFI dropper in their consumer machines to reinstall malware after a reinstall was really bad. But what would make me stop buying their machines is if a similar below-the-OS malware/backdoor injection were present in their business thinkpads. Is there any suggestion that this is the case?

buffoon 11y ago
Do they deserve a chance to explain if it's there or not? Probably not. They're off our purchasing list. Problem is: now what? Hardware vendors have all turned to crap in the last 5 years. Lenovo ships crapware and poor quality kit now. HP is stupid expensive and even enterprise support is crap. Dell are unreliable as hell. Literally all other vendors won't support a model more than about 6 months old i.e. no part stock, no service, just replacement with another chunk of junk that will fail in a few months (Acer, Asus I'm looking at you mostly). Just leaves Apple but then they're just glued together folding iPads with keyboards attached now with no chance of maintenance and reliability issues as well. New battery? Get the paint scraper and heat gun out. I'm using a Lenovo X201 myself with Mint and I suspect this is the last brand laptop I'm going to use. Back to the custom desktops at home.
- drzaiusapelord 11y ago
  Dell looks good right now. From what Ive been hearing they're QA is at Lenovo levels.
  - buffoon 11y ago
    stares at the large pile of dell XPS machines that are dead in the corner of the office .... Not quite there yet...
- josteink 11y ago
  > Hardware vendors have all turned to crap in the last 5 years. They've all played the race to the bottom, because nobody evidently believed in the premium PC and that people were willing to pay for that. When you're constantly pushing prices and margins down for almost a decade, of course quality will suffer.

buffoon 11y ago

Do they deserve a chance to explain if it's there or not? Probably not. They're off our purchasing list. Problem is: now what? Hardware vendors have all turned to crap in the last 5 years. Lenovo ships crapware and poor quality kit now. HP is stupid expensive and even enterprise support is crap. Dell are unreliable as hell. Literally all other vendors won't support a model more than about 6 months old i.e. no part stock, no service, just replacement with another chunk of junk that will fail in a few months (Acer, Asus I'm looking at you mostly). Just leaves Apple but then they're just glued together folding iPads with keyboards attached now with no chance of maintenance and reliability issues as well. New battery? Get the paint scraper and heat gun out. I'm using a Lenovo X201 myself with Mint and I suspect this is the last brand laptop I'm going to use. Back to the custom desktops at home.

drzaiusapelord 11y ago
Dell looks good right now. From what Ive been hearing they're QA is at Lenovo levels.
- buffoon 11y ago
  stares at the large pile of dell XPS machines that are dead in the corner of the office .... Not quite there yet...
josteink 11y ago
> Hardware vendors have all turned to crap in the last 5 years. They've all played the race to the bottom, because nobody evidently believed in the premium PC and that people were willing to pay for that. When you're constantly pushing prices and margins down for almost a decade, of course quality will suffer.