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Thank you for this talk. Especially the part about fighting against the tobacco industry. It really made me realize that this is a fight that can be won. I hon

Thank you for this talk. Especially the part about fighting against the tobacco industry. It really made me realize that this is a fight that can be won. I honestly thought this was a lost battle. It will, however, be a more subtle battle as the advertising industry (Big Ads ?) cannot be linked to something as clearly detremental as lung cancer and will be quick to point out that the technology developped can help fight terrorism (a winning buzzword bingo if ther's ever been one) by identifying behavior on the internet, including so-called dangerous ones.

mildweed 11y ago
"Big Ads" is very apt. Advertising agencies are very much like start-ups: often their goal is to get acquired by one of the major agencies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_advertising_agencies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_advertising_agencies Those top 5 agencies are the ones who can afford to do privacy-invading advertising, because they can do it at scale.
magoghm 11y ago
Michael Crichton on the Unproven Dangers of Secondhand Smoke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoZ-b1OaW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoZ-b1OaW4
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- collyw 11y ago
  Not accoding to the study mentioned here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/12/12/study-finds-no-link-between-secondhand-smoke-and-cancer/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/12/12/study-fi...
snowwrestler 11y ago
One of my biggest frustrations with the people working to improve politics (Lessig is probably most famous among tech crowd) is that their constant refrain of how "rigged" the system is, turns out to be highly counterproductive. Instead of mobilizing people to action, it instead sends most people--like you--into apathetic despair. Why? Because it's easy to be apathetic. This is not a knock on you personally, it's a statement on the human condition. Most people just don't feel like they have the free bandwidth (time, money, energy) to take on a big ideological fight, particularly if they think they can't win anyway. But the truth is that the last 100 years of history is chock full of amazing stories of victories in just such fights. I'm most familiar with U.S. history so I'll just highlight a few: - 100 years takes us back to the beginning of the modern labor movement. Viciously opposed by well-funded industry and government forces, it nevertheless succeeded in massively shifting social norms and installing numerous laws and regulations to protect workers. It is still a strong force today. - 60 years takes us back to the births of the modern civil rights and environmental movements. Like labor, they were out funded by huge margins, but still changed the world through shifting social norms and numerous laws and regulations. Both are still powerful movements today. - We only need to look back about 30 years to see the birth of the modern LGBT movement, whose victories are in our headlines today. That movement will undoubtedly continue to be a powerful force in American society for decades to come, at least. Now take a look at those timelines... 30 years is the most recent. The tobacco victories were on a similar timeline. Nothing comes quick and easy when we're talking about moving the opinions and laws of an entire nation. But is the fight winnable? YES! The evidence says it is.

mildweed 11y ago

"Big Ads" is very apt. Advertising agencies are very much like start-ups: often their goal is to get acquired by one of the major agencies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_advertising_agencies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_advertising_agencies Those top 5 agencies are the ones who can afford to do privacy-invading advertising, because they can do it at scale.

magoghm 11y ago

Michael Crichton on the Unproven Dangers of Secondhand Smoke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoZ-b1OaW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoZ-b1OaW4

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collyw 11y ago
Not accoding to the study mentioned here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/12/12/study-finds-no-link-between-secondhand-smoke-and-cancer/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/12/12/study-fi...

snowwrestler 11y ago

One of my biggest frustrations with the people working to improve politics (Lessig is probably most famous among tech crowd) is that their constant refrain of how "rigged" the system is, turns out to be highly counterproductive. Instead of mobilizing people to action, it instead sends most people--like you--into apathetic despair. Why? Because it's easy to be apathetic. This is not a knock on you personally, it's a statement on the human condition. Most people just don't feel like they have the free bandwidth (time, money, energy) to take on a big ideological fight, particularly if they think they can't win anyway. But the truth is that the last 100 years of history is chock full of amazing stories of victories in just such fights. I'm most familiar with U.S. history so I'll just highlight a few: - 100 years takes us back to the beginning of the modern labor movement. Viciously opposed by well-funded industry and government forces, it nevertheless succeeded in massively shifting social norms and installing numerous laws and regulations to protect workers. It is still a strong force today. - 60 years takes us back to the births of the modern civil rights and environmental movements. Like labor, they were out funded by huge margins, but still changed the world through shifting social norms and numerous laws and regulations. Both are still powerful movements today. - We only need to look back about 30 years to see the birth of the modern LGBT movement, whose victories are in our headlines today. That movement will undoubtedly continue to be a powerful force in American society for decades to come, at least. Now take a look at those timelines... 30 years is the most recent. The tobacco victories were on a similar timeline. Nothing comes quick and easy when we're talking about moving the opinions and laws of an entire nation. But is the fight winnable? YES! The evidence says it is.