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Probably the goal is that you're coerced to use it, as with every other government service.
by dchest 11y ago
Probably the goal is that you're coerced to use it, as with every other government service.
- Nursie 11y agoYou're not coerced into using many government services. You may be taxed to pay for them, but you don't have to use them all.
- jakeogh 11y agoGreat. Where do I click to opt out of the IRS personal data storage system?
- Nursie 11y agohttp://www.australia.gov.au/information-and-services/immigration-and-visas/migration-to-australia http://www.australia.gov.au/information-and-services/immigra...
- jakeogh 11y agoA more authortarian gov as a solution to non-optional 'services'?
- Nursie 11y agoNo, I was suggesting that if you don;t like the country you're in right now you can choose another. The IRS, or their equivalent, are the price of entry into whatever society you wish to be part of (or whichever will take you. It's like a social club, if you don't want to pay your dues you don't get to use the facilities.
- jakeogh 11y agoIt's a standard cop-out. "'Merica; leave if you don't like it". Imagine if activists in the 60's had taken that advice. You realize the IRS != US? We got along financially just fine (some would say better) before it.
- Nursie 11y agoI'm not American, thanks, so no its not a standard opt-out. You have a choice of many countries in the world, with all sorts of different rules decided on by the people there.
- Nursie 11y agoI guess I'm trying to make a broader point than the IRS here - argue against the IRS and whatever other parts of government you like on a pragmatic basis, that's great. I just get riled up by the "It's wrong! They have no right to tax me! I have property rights!" stance, because it's inconsistent.