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Fatal? Please, you're exaggerating greatly. If the pinto couldn't kill Ford, VW will be just fine.

hnal943 11y ago
Well, it's not just one model, it's all the small TDI's. According to what I've read, that's a pretty big segment of their American market. How important is America to an auto manufacturer?
- rconti 11y ago
  It's like 15% of their US market. But the 11 million figure in this article (vs the old 450k figure) includes vehicles worldwide. 450k was US diesels from VW.
jacquesm 11y ago
VW has a ton of brands besides just the main one and this affects a very large number of vehicles and an equally large number of customers. I've been a pretty loyal VW customer for the last 8 years and my next car will definitely not be a VW, this is unacceptable at just about every level and I'm fairly sure I'm not the only person thinking like this. If you think VW will be just fine now would be a good time to buy some stock.
- CamperBob2 11y ago
  I'd wait for the other shoe to drop. The other shoe being the fantastic unlikelihood that VW is the only automaker pulling crap like this, or even one of a minority of manufacturers. This story isn't over yet, I'm pretty sure of that.
  - jacquesm 11y ago
    At this point that would be a god-send for VW. The stock market seems to agree with you by the way.
    - CamperBob2 11y ago
      Yes, the fact that the whistle wasn't blown by VW's competitors -- who you can rest assured knew what was going on -- is pretty ominous.
  - mcguire 11y ago
    My suspicion is that the first other shoe to drop is that VW's gag affected European emissions testing, as well. Diesel cars are a pretty small minority in the US; in Europe, they're much more popular and a much larger chunk of VW's sales. On the other hand, I can almost hear the other manufacturer's executives scrambling around asking, "Are we being this blatant?" and I'm quite a few miles from any segment of the automotive industry. (Disclosure: I have a 2002 Corvette with the CAGS disabled.)
    - makomk 11y ago
      One of the reasons diesels are more popular in Europe than the US is that US emissions standards are a lot harder to pass for diesels than they are for petrol cars and always have been.

Well, it's not just one model, it's all the small TDI's. According to what I've read, that's a pretty big segment of their American market. How important is America to an auto manufacturer?

rconti 11y ago
It's like 15% of their US market. But the 11 million figure in this article (vs the old 450k figure) includes vehicles worldwide. 450k was US diesels from VW.

jacquesm 11y ago

VW has a ton of brands besides just the main one and this affects a very large number of vehicles and an equally large number of customers. I've been a pretty loyal VW customer for the last 8 years and my next car will definitely not be a VW, this is unacceptable at just about every level and I'm fairly sure I'm not the only person thinking like this. If you think VW will be just fine now would be a good time to buy some stock.

CamperBob2 11y ago
I'd wait for the other shoe to drop. The other shoe being the fantastic unlikelihood that VW is the only automaker pulling crap like this, or even one of a minority of manufacturers. This story isn't over yet, I'm pretty sure of that.
- jacquesm 11y ago
  At this point that would be a god-send for VW. The stock market seems to agree with you by the way.
  - CamperBob2 11y ago
    Yes, the fact that the whistle wasn't blown by VW's competitors -- who you can rest assured knew what was going on -- is pretty ominous.
- mcguire 11y ago
  My suspicion is that the first other shoe to drop is that VW's gag affected European emissions testing, as well. Diesel cars are a pretty small minority in the US; in Europe, they're much more popular and a much larger chunk of VW's sales. On the other hand, I can almost hear the other manufacturer's executives scrambling around asking, "Are we being this blatant?" and I'm quite a few miles from any segment of the automotive industry. (Disclosure: I have a 2002 Corvette with the CAGS disabled.)
  - makomk 11y ago
    One of the reasons diesels are more popular in Europe than the US is that US emissions standards are a lot harder to pass for diesels than they are for petrol cars and always have been.